I think I've found out why people have FE gains with their CAIs...
If you think about it, a lot of people's CAI kits are really WAI...
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Wow- excellent point. I never thought of it that way.
So there are three types of intakes: 1. Stock- outside air (true cold air) 2. Underhood air (passively heated) 3. Warm air intake (actively heated by exhaust or radiator) |
Well, there are aftermarket CAIs that actually get cold air from outside (usually they use terms like "cowl induction", "ram air", etc)...but look at a lot of them and they're getting warm air.
I'd guess that too many people never measure their IAT before and after installing their "CAI". |
measure the idle consumption of 4, 6 and 8 cylinder engines. Then measure the same engines at no load and 2000 RPM.
My Insight will go 40 MPH on less fuel than a V8 uses idling. My Echo idles on .19 gallons per hour. Average V6 is .4 to .5. Average V8 is about .7. Those amounts double at 2000 RPM with no load applied to the engine to move the vehicle. Reciprocating mass is a major factor in the differences in consumption, beyond friction and pumping losses. regards gary |
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I actually data logged my intake temps when I built a custom kit of that sort for my race car. With intercooling and one very large turbo, I never saw more than a 4 degree difference from ambient temperature and my intake temperature at the manifold while crusing at 65. So even with a best case intercooling scenario of 80% efficiency, my intake air was otherwise never more than about 5 degrees over ambient with that setup. |
oh definately you need to block the heat properly to get a cai
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CAI used to mean CAI, but in the last 5 years, people have been calling short ram intakes or any cone filter CAIs, so it's due to the dumbing down of the term that some "CAI"s might now seem to be WAIs.
However, a well developed CAI kit should reduce pumping loss over a stock airbox, so economy should improve a little if you can keep your foot out of it. Also should make a more economical WAI vs a stock airbox converted to WAI. |
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I have a hard time believing that a well developed CAI kit could increase FE for anyone who is driving for FE; though I guess the savings of pumping losses could conceivably help someone who drives anti-FE, if the cold air doesn't bring it down too much (which is possible since factory intakes often get decently cold air anyway).
As for factory paper filters vs. aftermarket, they have every reason and ability to put in one that won't reduce FE. There's plenty of monetary reasons why they should and few why they shouldn't. It's truly hard for me to believe that a manufacturer would be so negligent of their own bottom line for so little reason on a detail that is so popularly scrutinized. And again, even if it doesn't flow well, it shouldn't affect FE for drivers who care about FE at all. Don't forget the EPA's own testing on the matter, which showed that even a terribly clogged filter would have little effect on fuel economy: https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/pdfs/...02_26_2009.pdf |
That report there says Buicks OEM filter was more restrictive than the aftermarket replacement.
However, the test methods were the EPA test cycles, they've got so many speed changes in them that nothing that affects steady state FE is going to show up in them. There's quite a number of technologies that auto companies have tested that give fairly amazing highway mpg, but they never implemented them, because they didn't show up on the EPA gas-brakes-gas-brakes test schedule. Ford had a DOD tech running in the early 80s, got 20 or 30% out of it at steady cruise, but it cut in for seconds only on the EPA schedule, so didn't make a damn bit of difference to their numbers, ergo, it wasn't produced. |
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