just another Hoax or is there something to this?
 

https://www.befreetech.com/save_gas.htm

18x???

That has to be a misprint. I'm sure they meant 20x. :rolleyes:

Tis a marvel of modern science! No exhaust, gas comes spilling out of your tank! How can I loose?

lol

It doesn't even make sense. Why would you have a cat in the fuel line?

Maybe they didn't want to create a frenzy of orders, or they wanted to under promise and over deliver. I'm going to order their system RIGHT NOW and I'll probably be getting 1500MPG by next week.

But seriously, is there "ANYTHING" at all to their claims of better FE?

It makes 'plasma'! 'Cracked' into it's elements! Wow! I'm not so sure I want a 'storm' happening in my fuel lines though.

Seems the Alex Jones DVD is the only thing they sell of any value. (But I'm betting you can find it for less than $19.95.)

Okay... it somehow magically converts gasoline to PLASMA?

And the injectors have no problem with this?

seriously?

Anyway, check this out:

That's 100% untrue. While your vehicle may only use 13-23% of the energy out of the fuel, it's because of friction (tires) and wind resistance, not the engine's inability to vaporize fuel. The entire point of injectors is to vaporize the fuel... to convert it to a mist and to mix it with oxygen. In reality, more than 98% of the fuel is burned in a properly running engine. (source 1)

FYI, in order to turn something into plasma, it first has to be a gas, not a liquid. Gas is converted to plasma by ionizing it, or by introducing an extra electron into the molecule. This requires heating the [gas] and then ionizing it. I seriously doubt that this is something that would happen with a small device like this.

Oh, and even if it did convert it to a plasma, it would still not burn more efficiently. Making it a plasma would make it more electrically conduction, making it more responsive to electric fields. None of this, of course, has anything to do with it burning more efficiently. (source 2)

Of course, you don't have to believe me... you can spend $1000 on their product the size of a TV remote. After all, they can't be lying, can they? I mean, they DO have a video on their site :)

sources:

Fuel Vaporization - Tony's Fuel Saving Info

Plasma - wikipedia

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EDIT:

Just as a general rule of thumb consider the following:

Recently Honda had a fit over the Fit (ba-dum-bum) not qualifying for the government rebate for fuel economy. They ended up sending every owner a $2000 check to make it right. Honda would have done ANYTHING to make their vehicle qualify, as it was a real reputation damager for them in this instance.

Whenever someone recommends vast conspiracies as the reasoning for vehicles getting horrible gas mileage, I have to scratch my head. If Honda, or Toyota, or Ford, could produce a vehicle that gets 200 MPG by simply adding a $1000 device (which probably costs around $30 to make) don't you think they would do it? Oh, and it has no emissions either.

[sarcasm] I can't imagine an auto maker wanting to sell a car that gets 200MPG and has zero emissions... not at all..[/sarcasm]

[Forrest Gump]And that's all I got to say about that[/Forrest Gump]

Does this mean a new tv is going to come out of my tailpipe? Maybe I should cut down on the Acetone. :D

M

Do you actually think someone would lie to get money?! :eek:

You're right... I mean, they have a webpage, and videos.

AND, the guy in the videos looks like an average guy. Must be true. Yep. I'm ordering one now.

From https://www.befreetech.com/save_gas.htm
Doesn't this mean evenutally the motor will start to expand like a balloon or that you will not be able to inject more fuel into it?;) :rolleyes: :eek:

you're forgetting about the small transporter that transports the exhaust to the sun. For $1000 you're really getting your money's worth :)

I was looking at the install instructions for one of the devices on the site and the special mixture is 1/3 acetone, 1/3 Xyleen?/ and 1/3 there secret ingredient.

Oh, I thought 'neocon' was Latin for "just shut your cake hole and believe your leaders."

Damn... first KFC with their secret recipe, and now these guys.

Using ABA testing over a 1.4 mile closed course indoor track I conducted the following tests using TANG as an additive.

Test 1 - No TANG - 1.4 miles, .0214 gallons, yeilds 65.42 MPG.
Test 2 - TANG added - 1.4 miles, .0209 gallons, yeilds 66.99 MPG
Test 3 - No TANG - 1.4 miles, .0215 gallons, yeilds 65.11 MPG

A 2.4% increase in fuel efficiency with TANG added!

(please note: TANG was added to the driver, not the fuel tank.)

LOL... Those astronauts really know what they're doing, eh?

quote from that page:

" No Exhaust!
It's been learned that when running on plasma fuel, the exhaust can be sent back to the intake and the engine will run in a closed loop without any exhaust!"

Try that with a human being, LOL!

I, being a natural skeptic, say no way. No effing way.

Oh man.. amazing how such a small device can violate so many laws of physics hahahah what a crock.

JeffOtto.com LTD's challenge to any of these so-called critics:
Put your money where your mouth is! $5,000 cash to be exact and we will do the same.

They provide a suitable shop at their chosen continental US location and we will provide a vehicle to be modified (a scientific before & after mileage check will be performed both before and after).
We will announce the date and location to give anyone that would like to witness the event adequate prior notice and it will be video taped.
They are also welcome to announce the event and have any of their experts present to test/examine the pre & post HAFC equipped vehicle.
If their experts can find anything bogus like a false tank, or whatever, they can announce that to the world as they see fit.
When they do discover the technology works exactly as we claim, they can than repent by issuing a public apology and remove any negative comments they have posted anywhere.
Obviously the winner will keep the losers $5,000!

And where should we wire a $5000 donation to this farce?

Nobody is going to pay YOU to prove that this stuff works. It works the other way around. Prove it works, then collect the money. :cool:

thats what i question every time, if a company coudl ad a magic box, magnets, cut groves, super gearing or somehting for barely any cost then WHY wouldnt they do it? if they did and got claims those products say they do then said company could be way ahead of the competition and wipe them out if a car 3X the size, power, luxuryness could get 3X the mileage of competitors econoboxes lol

The part I liked was the stuff you tip into the fuel tank which "breaks the covalent bonds of gasoline"
Wonder what does it does to the rest of the car?

All that work done by the good people at Mobil, Shell , BP and other refineries undone at the tip of a bottle.

Good for a laugh but these days does anyone really take this stuff seriously?

Pete.