gas price perdictions for 1/1/07
 

The current US average for gas is $2.234 per gallon.

My perdiction is $2.35. A slight rise but nothig dramatic.

https://66.70.86.46/test.gaschart?Cou...&Unit=US%20$/G

I agree. I think somewhere around $2.40 but who knows. We are a headline away from really high gas prices again. I read the other day that Chavez was talking about cutting the US off. I dought that he would be crazy enough to do that but that's 30% of our supply. I guess it boils down to how greedy the oil companies get and how much people are willing to take. Anybody remember when gas first hit $2.00 a gallon and people were screaming for congressional hearings. With the last round of high prices it seems people just accepted it and now the breaking point has moved a little higher.

Gas is usually faily low priced during the fall and winter thats why I don't think the price will rise much.

Summer 2007 is anybodys guess.

Local Prices
 

I'm assuming local prices, and I voted 2.00-2.25. There seems to be a decent reserve and World events, at this moment, aren't highly publicized as having an effect. Profits will tend to be in the Natural Gas and Heating Oil segments as Winter hits.

RH77

Now this would make a neat competition.

Make a yearly prediction and the closest one to the price at the end of the year gets a ??????

(also coud be 6 monthly)

Hello -

I went with $2.61-$2.80 because the oil companies are who they are, traitorous scum stealing from you and me. This is probably their last chance to stick it to us because if they push it too hard after the Dems get in, they could risk a Congressional investigation. Establish a high expectation price and try to stick to it.

CarloSW2

Cash and Prizes!
 

...1974 Plymouth Duster!

Actually, "crude oil futures" can make make an investor quite a bit of money if predicted correctly :p

I don't know much more about investing other than buy low, sell high. :confused:

RH77

Motorists don't have much leeway when it comes to changing the amount of driving they do. They might be able to chop off 1-2k miles a year by cancelling vacations, but with a lack of mass transit in this country, they're options are pretty much limited to a car when going to work and to grocery stores. For some, biking is feasible and some live close to mass transit, but the economic reality for most is that moving near these things would outweigh the cost of gas many times over.

The oilies will mug us for all we're worth. They stifled alternatives specifically so peak oil would be that much more devastating and expensive. Oil wars, economic recession/depression, and the prospect of a dieoff don't bother these people in the least. They want profit, at all costs.

Needing to drive the distance...
 

True. I know I have to commute a fair distance to work, and alternative transportation just isn't available for that distance (and I did look to see if alternatives, such as a "van pool", were an option given where our home is)! And while I could (in theory) move closer to work, doing so would require us to sell our home and get (likely more expensive) housing somewhere else (which would be more costly to us, than the gas we would save as a result).

However, even if you have to drive the distance, you can still use techniques mentioned on this forum, to help you get better MPG for the driving you have to do anyway. But the problem there, is that such ideas are NOT well known to the average driver. In fact, the average driver is much more likely to get FALSE INFO from some company trying to make money MARKETING auto products to you, than they are to get useful info on real ways to get better MPG out of whatever car they have! Just look around (both online, and in the auto-stores) if you doubt me!

BTW: Yes, I know that there is a lot of good info on the gassavers web site. But lets face it, we are currently the small (just look at our overall user totals) exception that proves the general rule. I know, as I remember how hard it was to get good FE info, before I found gassavers.org. And I'm overall a more savvy consumer than most are. I would dare say, the average car owner is still believing old marketing BS such as to always change your oil at 3000miles (this is good advice only if you use cheap oil and/or filter, or your engine is extra dirty), which benefits the oil change stores much more than it benefits either your engine or FE...

I don't doubt you for a minute.

That's what I love about this site. It validates which methods will save fuel, and which won't. If only more people knew of these techniques. Common sense really is not that common.

But a much greater impact on oil consumption would be made if the auto industry actually offered viable alternative fueled vehicles like BEVs, and if aerodynamics were sufficiently addressed so that 40+ mpg cars became the norm, without the consumer being called to sacrifice anything. We could also bring back the mass transit system we had up until the 1940s, where trolleys were so common and frequent that car use in urban areas was a luxury instead of a necessity. This would displace a LOT of car use without any mobility being sacrificed. However, it was the U.S. government, oil industry, and auto industry that destroyed what was once one of the best mass transit systems in the world, in order to boost car sales, fuel sales, and other consumer expenditures.

Getting industry and government to do its part is the real issue, as high oil consumption is what is making them money, and they don't want that to decrease.

I predict U.S. gas prices will be between $2.20-2.40 come 1/01/07. Byt with peak oil's effects starting to show, it will be over $3.00/gallon again by 6/01/07. I'd even go so far as to say the odds of $4/gallon sometime next year are 50/50. The democrats would do good by investigating oil industry profit mongering, but that alone isn't the whole issue or even the largest part of it. Peak oil is.

about two months back they found what they figured to be about 6 months suply of oil in the gulf of mexico, I think that is where it was, shortly after that the price of gas droped, so I figure some time around March or so the price is going to start going up again, but untill then I think it's going to stay pretty stable, maybe going up by about 10 cents, and droping at times, by as much as 5 cents, but not much more untill around March when it starts to clime again as people start to drive more in the spring, and oil suplys start to drop off again, we are after all at the peek, and the main reason that I see it that we are still priced so low is that we are spending so much money on the military, insted of everything else that our tax dollars were ment to be spent on.

I played it a lil conservative and picked 2.4-2.6 range. i see $3 a gallon in 2007.

I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. So much of the non-essential is done in SUVs with just a driver. In the USA we waste so much fuel, and will we ever change? :cool:

I find that gas prices are actually at their lowest on New Year's Day. Regina SK, Canada's gas price right now (according to www.reginagasprices.com) is around $2.80US$/USgallon, so I voted $2.81 - $3.00.

I filled up my Geo yesterday for $19.83 Canadian currency and got 6.37 US gallons. The price was $0.819 per litre. 81.9 cents X 0.88 (exchange rate) = 72.1 US cents per litre. 3.8 litres in a gallon means that the cheapest place in Regina sells gas for $2.74/US gallon. The most expensive (and most common) price would be $3.00/US gallon.

ONCE AGAIN I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAY. :cool:

A small % of us care about MPG and the environment, but a large % of our population does NOT CARE. I am not hopeful that things will change.

Yellow Pages Theory
 

I remember commercials for the Yellow Pages (when there was 1, not 20), where they advertised, "Save gas and time by calling ahead. Instead of driving from store-to-store, call first to see if they have what you need!"

It makes sense -- plan your routes.

But I will admit, I frivolously drive sometimes. Being a car-guy, there's something to hopping in the car and going for a drive -- it's therapeutic. Of course, I try to hypermile but it is using fuel nevertheless :(

My 2-pence is that even though we're the minority, doesn't mean we can't make a difference. It's like politics: you have the GasSavers, the Guzzlers, and those on the fence. Inspire the indecisive or the apathetic. Get the swing vote for our side. It's a grassroots idea.

RH77

theclencher-

I do it too. I consider my life too messy to be able to do things any other way, though. My week is always a mess. If we have gas lines as long as the early 1970's, then suddenly the government and car companies will come up with "magic legislation" to increase fleet FE. This will mean just doing what they already do in Japan and Europe. I would love to use a bus or train, but the extra commute time would add up to 2 more hours lost in the day, and I don't feel comfortable using a computer to make the lost time usefull because of risk of theft.

The analogy I always use is that for the most part, people are "stomach driven", another way of saying that they don't think too much beyond their own satisfaction. To think beyond oneself is a much harder thing because it means sacrificing. A good parent learns to do this firsthand when they have a kid, but extrapolating that sentiment to all people is a harder thing to do.

CarloSW2

$4.00 *might* get people to consider changing their habits, $5.00 *might* actually cause some habits to change for the long term.

man this thread needs a spell checker:P

Is that your perdiction ?

It's a $1.96 here right now. I think it'll go up a bit for Thanksgiving then slowly drop back down to what it is now around the new year.
Then all spring it'll climb back up to 2.50.

With all the animosity toward oil companies right now, and the investigations going on everywhere, I'd hope big oil wouldn't be stupid enough to try and bump it back up over 3$.

But, then agian... =p

While true, it is probably only about 3k miles a year for the more extreme cases. I added up all my non-essential driving over this year so far, including cruising around with friends, hooligan-esque activities, and 'road trips', and it's around 1,800 miles. We do stupid things involving motor vehicles almost every week.

Cruising along city streets at 20-30 mph really doesn't use many gallons per hour. You get a lot more time operating a vehicle per gallon of gas used than mundane highway speed commuting, where you will cover twice the distance in less than half the time(even though highway fuel economy will give better gas mileage).

When I was a teenager, having a job close enough to walk and not using a car to commute to school, my driving was completely discretionary, and added up to about 3k miles per year.

Now, I have ~8k miles of commuting a year, and ~2k miles that is discretionary.

The bulk of the driving that is done in most cases is probably commuting. Unless we get a good mass transit system in place, this will not change in the U.S. People will keep buying gas and driving to work so long as the amount of money they make at work outweighs the cost of transportation. Once the economics change, many people will quit going to work, as has happened in rural California and elsewhere once $3.00/gallon came.

I'm sure someone might have some real numbers on hand(eg. Americans commute an average of X miles per day but drive a total of X miles per day), to throw a little facts into this discussion, instead of my heresay. :)

My father has worked as a lobbyist for passenger rail service in the US.

The dollar amount for people to "switch to public transport" over their cars in surveys is always $0.50-$1.00 more than current gas prices throughout history. When it was almost $2 a gallon, they claimed they would make the switch at $2.50, when it hit $2.50, the number became $3.00....

Their pocketbook? :confused:

You mean adjustable rate home equity mortgage and credit card limit, right?

If it hit their pocket books, they would not be buying SUVs like my co workers :

"...well, I got one hell of an interest rate and they gave me a good trade-in on my (Corolla, Accord, Camry...etc) so I said why not...."

Shhesh!

I 2nd that comment! :(

Looks like I was very close. The cuurrent US average is $2.323 per gallon.

Yeah, my spelling isn't the greatest.

Quote:
man this thread needs a spell checker:P

Yeah, my spelling isn't the greatest.

Don't take all the blame. You got a lot of help.

Fairly close
 

The average price of gasoline in Regina today (according to www.reginagasprices.com) is bang right on $3.00US$/USgallon. The cheapest in town is around $2.78US$/USgallon.

Me -

At gassbuddy.com I am seeing above or below $2.60 in Los Angeles for regular, so I was pretty close for my locale.

CarloSW2

2.60 for regular in Walnut Creek, CA