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MetroMPG 07-26-2006 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ZugyNA
>> Could you upload a copy of that report? <<

I will if the airtab guy says it's OK. Waiting to hear back.

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maybe with some vgs...direction isn't that important
That seems to be the case, doesn't it.

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the airtab clones are made so that the air is focused and made into a non vortex type higher pressure stream...while maybe there is a low pressure area between them.
Could you show me a pic of this non-vortex type? This is the first I've heard of that behaviour. My understanding is that the airtab style also creates vortices.

JanGeo 07-26-2006 07:59 AM

The Airtabs have a definate direction to face and create a clockwise vortex and counter clockwise vortex and should be placed 4 inches apart. The idea is to prevent reverse air flow back against the rear of the vehicle which represents drag and turbulance. I wish the improvement was greater to justify the cost but I guess at some point I will get a few and try them.

vegasjetskier 07-26-2006 12:42 PM

Vortex Strakes
 
Here's an SAE paper that describes how "vortex strakes" can be used to create an "aerodynamic boattail" behind semitrailers. See p. 13 for pics.

https://www.solusinc.com/pdf/2003-01-3377.pdf

Blue skies,

Patrick

ZugyNA 07-26-2006 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MetroMPG
Could you show me a pic of this non-vortex type? This is the first I've heard of that behaviour. My understanding is that the airtab style also creates vortices.

a pic and the pattern for the airtab clones is here:

https://www.gassavers.org/showthread.php?t=1351

I don't think the airtab type create vortexes...since the vanes oppose one another....


the vgs I used on the roof are a different pattern....and do create vortexes.

MetroMPG 07-26-2006 05:14 PM

According to the airtabs website (in "How do they work"), they create vortices.

n0rt0npr0 07-26-2006 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MetroMPG
According to the airtabs website (in "How do they work"), they create vortices.

Yes. Metro, I've been running my airtabs for sometime now, and when I drive through the rain, and a vehicle is behind me with thier lights on...I can significantly see the votices. Also, whenever I cruise down a dirt road above 40mph I can see them.

ZugyNA 07-27-2006 03:24 AM

All I can say is that they are symetrical, but the air hitting between the vanes is bumped up...might create a spin? Maybe there is an interaction between this higher pressure and the lower pressure air between the airtabs?

the typical vg obviously creates a spin.....

MetroMPG 07-27-2006 05:53 AM

FYI: Porsche 914 club forum - racer claims use of airtabs cut 1/2 second off his lap times by reducing rear lift:

https://www.914club.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=52170

ZugyNA 07-29-2006 07:37 AM

vgs for Vettes:

https://www.greenwoodcorvettes.net/gc4/vortex.htm

https://www.greenwoodcorvettes.net/gc...structions.htm

MetroMPG 08-08-2006 07:12 PM

Info given to me by Ron Davidson at Airtabs. (Posted with permission)


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