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MetroMPG 05-27-2007 09:13 AM

Yee haw: the "new" used batts are going

MetroMPG 05-27-2007 05:41 PM

b) record the time of the test

SVOboy 05-27-2007 05:45 PM

You're so very, very cool, good CBR125 sir.

What do you think you'll be ending up with as a final range when you're done?

SVOboy 05-27-2007 05:46 PM

PS: I might be parting out my scoot and I'll prolly end up with a frame...what do you think the electric potential is like?

MetroMPG 05-27-2007 05:58 PM

CBR125R person replies:

On these batteries, looks like range to 100% depth of discharge in slow/hypermiling mode

MetroMPG 05-27-2007 06:10 PM

Probably could end up with something like this (functionally) for not too much money:

https://www.twobikes.ottawa.on.ca/sha...156-1d_thm.jpg

https://www.twobikes.ottawa.on.ca/sha...854-156-1d.htm

I didn't get a chance to look at this e-scoot, but I believe it's legally an electric bicycle in Ontario. Which would mean 500w motor max continuous rating, and probably 36 or 48v worth of gel batteries. Max speed would be electronically limited to 30 km/h. Don't know about range...

SVOboy 05-27-2007 06:14 PM

Interesting, interesting to the max.

And ssh on the r, we don't want to scare the mpgs away.

MetroMPG 05-27-2007 06:50 PM

Almost forgot: while I was out lapping the neighbourhood today, I went past the house where I bought the blue car, and the lady was getting out of her "new" car

pauldl63 05-27-2007 09:26 PM

hello,just wanted to say the EV Expo looked like a great day,great weather as well,looked like the type Sydney(Australia) is now enjoying.from some of the listed pics I didn't how bad some of the cars suffer some cancer(rust).what's the normal life span of cars in north america that live in snowy areas?
enjoying the site as well,cheers---palu

MetroMPG 05-28-2007 06:23 AM

Weather was fantastic. Sunny but not too hot: 25 C.

Re: rust - depends on whether they salt or sand the roads in winter. Cars in salty areas that aren't regularly rust treated (or are badly designed) will be toast in about 12 years, I'd say.

CO ZX2 06-01-2007 04:35 PM

Sharp!!!

Wanna borrow my car for about a week???

MetroMPG 06-01-2007 04:38 PM

Sure! Question is: do you extend the stripes into the wheel skirts or not..

SVOboy 06-01-2007 04:57 PM

Haha, do it! Make them seem stock. Hell, make them metal and weld on brackets for them to attach to...

caprice 06-01-2007 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetroMPG (Post 4068)

- 89-94 metro: 1650 lbs
- 84-87 civic: 1797 lbs
- 95-99 metro: 1830 lbs
- 94-97 aspire: 2004 lbs
- early fiero: 2500 lbs

My high school had a class that built 2 VW rabbits EV. I wonder what the weights are on those

pauldl63 06-02-2007 03:32 AM

Congrats on job well done.looks a treat.whats the go with insuring an EV car in north america and when it comes to rego time is there any reductions in the cost compared to the average car.I ask this because in queensland australia there is some sort reduction in annual rego costs.cheers---paul

MetroMPG 06-02-2007 03:47 AM

The Rabbits were pretty light (for their time): between 1800-1900 lbs is the most accurate I could come up with from a quick search. They were very popular as a conversion vehicle.

Paul: registration is the same cost here in Ontario, but there's no emissions test for an EV, so you save a bit there. As for insurance, it can be tricky, but it's possible to get. We'll find out just how tricky in a couple of months...

(Drat - there I go making progress predictions again - standard disclaimer applies...)

Snax 06-02-2007 07:04 AM

As far as insurance goes for most EVs, I suggest shopping around for a 'declared value' policy. And just because one agent says no, that doesn't mean another won't say yes - even selling the same company's insurance.

Forkenswift can probably get by with a standard policy given the low cost of parts involved.

MetroMPG 06-02-2007 07:51 AM

The inquiries I'd made so far were for liability only - don't think we're planning to insure the vehicle for loss. $35/month was the best quote I got so far.

MetroMPG 06-02-2007 04:31 PM

Oh man, I love driving the ForkenSwift.

MetroMPG 06-05-2007 05:06 AM

2 more photo galleries posted of the EV Expo

jwxr7 06-08-2007 09:59 AM

Wow, I haven't checked this thread for a while. Nice job:thumbup: . That car looks great.

I'm inspired to try a pushmower electric conversion :) .

MetroMPG 06-09-2007 05:50 PM

This evening I rotated the motor

MetroMPG 06-09-2007 06:34 PM

Wow - just found a PDF from the company who makes the 24v/10A charger. They state 16 hrs required to recharge 100 amp hours! This is probably conservative, but still...

Snax 06-10-2007 06:41 AM

I am by no means an expert on EV stuff, but what I've picked up from the EVDL list is that there is one part of an EV not to skimp on if you want to limit headaches, and that is the charger(s).

I know the whole idea of Forkenswift is to keep costs down, but be sure to get a charger with good current and voltage limiting, as even a mediocre charger can dust quality batteries well before their time. I am leaning toward multiple parallel chargers myself for optimal battery balancing.

MetroMPG 06-10-2007 01:42 PM

Agreed. If I were building a proper EV with a pile of cash invested in a new set of balanced batteries, I think I'd also go the individual charger route. Soneil comes to mind. Otherwise I'd get balancers/charge regulators. Unfortunately, 8 soneils cost more than the total invested in the project.

MetroMPG 06-10-2007 02:37 PM

I just took the ForkenSwift for a spin around the block - fresh off the charger

SVOboy 06-10-2007 02:40 PM

Pretty sweet, what's your timeline for this thing going into actual use and what % of gas-powered miles do you think it will be able to offset?

MetroMPG 06-10-2007 03:59 PM

I don't do project timeline estimates any more :)

It's actually bound to offset very little of my ICE driving, because I bike everywhere local, unless it's raining. I can only think of 2 trips in the past couple of weeks where I would have used the FS. It's far more likely that I'll be driving it because it's so cool to drive. (I feel so dirty.)

Ivan, on the other hand, drives more. So it'll offset more of his ICE use when he has it.

SVOboy 06-10-2007 04:05 PM

Well...I guess it'll be useful, :p

MetroMPG 06-10-2007 06:01 PM

Correction: I will be offsetting other people's ICE driving. Forgot about this.

I'm pretty sure I'll be volunteering to chauffeur my family & friends around, where they would otherwise be using their ICE vehicle. EG my mom typically drives her Camry around 20 km a day for errands. I bet I'll be showing up to take her to the grocery store...

I mentioned this to her and she said: "why can't I just drive it myself?" :thumbup:

SVOboy 06-10-2007 06:10 PM

Do you ever actually work? Moving into the limo service?

MetroMPG 06-10-2007 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SVOboy (Post 56515)
Do you ever actually work?

Funny... my customers keep asking me that too.

SVOboy 06-10-2007 06:14 PM

Well, keep it up. You're direction in life is set! Up up and away!

MetroMPG 06-13-2007 05:43 AM

Chicken coup! A hen in the fox den?
 
Canada's most widely read auto publication is the Toronto Star's weekend "Wheels" section. They just launched a new web site with a "reader's wheels" photo gallery.

Care to guess what's been added to the gallery among the high power muscle cars & blingmobiles?

OdieTurbo 06-13-2007 07:56 AM

Dude yer famous now!

SVOboy 06-13-2007 08:03 AM

Your name is spelled incorrectly, Mr. Corgrove!

MetroMPG 06-13-2007 06:12 PM

Well, the Vulcan 24/10 charger isn't quite as smart as I thought it was. I wrote to the company (just down the highway in Toronto) and got this reply:

Quote:

The EA24/10 does not use a 3-stage charging
algorithm. It is a simple taper type charger
meaning that as the battery voltage rises the
charging current drops off. When the battery
voltage reaches about 29.2V an electronic finish
timer is activated, and after 3 hours the
charger will shut down. If the charger is
sized appropriately for the batteries to be
recharged then the batteries will finish
properly during the gassing phase.
---

In other news, started work on the front battery racks this evening. Nothing special to report yet, but I'll take pics when I've got something to show.

MetroMPG 06-13-2007 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SVOboy (Post 57201)
Your name is spelled incorrectly, Mr. Corgrove!

Yeah, funny. Well they got it right 2 out of 3 times, so on average they were correct.

MetroMPG 06-17-2007 06:11 PM

Tinkered a little more with the front racks on Saturday. Still nothing photo-worthy though. This week. Maybe I'll slack off tomorrow afternoon and do some more work on it.

I've been eBaying for a proper welding mask too, since there's going to be a need for that at this stage of the game.

atomicradish 06-17-2007 07:26 PM

Wow, the Forkenswift looks great.

Sometimes I pretend that I'm driving an EV Metro when I do ICE off coasting in my car.


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