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Old 05-01-2008, 08:31 AM   #1
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The Unsers are using the product (you'll also hear this on the conference call- they were not paid to say what they're saying..)
Second: This is not my only home business--You'll see my others on my profile.

Here is an Equity Research Report

I was guessing at MPG--We travel alot and we know, based on the distance we regularly travel when it's time to get gas(always when we get home, sometimes before)--- First time, we went on a 3 hr trip there and back on half a tank of gas (which we do alot, same destination AND gas was higher this time)- by the time we get home prior to using it, we're very low on E..this time we still had a 1/4 tank left (which around here is about a 15.00 savings)--so when we aren't filling up when it's time, that's how we figured out our savings...I know the director of For Earth has tracked their mileage, I"ll see if she has run an actual report on it...
Here's documented reports/tests from bus charters to Southwest Research Institute to Precision Motors to Allied Waste resultsto Extreme Motor Sports (note: this was documented in 2006- a measuring tool is provided right on the bottle now (2008) to make life easier) North Miami Research North Miami Results Tractor Data Petro Ecuador Testing Coca-Cola Results-San Diego

By providing these documented test results, I am not asking you to "take it by faith" but giving you proof...You don't have to believe me, in fact don't- that's ok...There's enough research here to make the military sit up and take notice (as we speak) but..."you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink"


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Your username and that statement says it all. You want us to take your product on faith, and you dont even track your own milage. How do you know you get x more mpg IF YOU DON'T EVEN TRACK IT!

I also get the idea your 'home based business' is selling this 3rd party product. I am familiar with this scheme, and it's a favorite of scams like this that sell various brands of snake oil.

And this 'money back if it doesn't work' crap doesn't fly with me either. If you were serious, you could spare a month's worth of product or more to one or two of the top posters on this site, their results would be posted on the logs they've been keeping for months/years, and the advantage of your product would be extremely obvious and you'd make some great sales really fast. But, I'm sure you'll just tell me that if I buy your product and I'm not happy I'll get my money back. No thanks.

Faith based biz indeed.


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Old 05-01-2008, 08:50 AM   #2
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The Unsers are using the product
So what?

Have you read those reports you cited?

Not one of them measures fuel efficiency.
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Old 05-01-2008, 09:08 AM   #3
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Of course I have. I also speak with Marie, the director nearly every day, getting more and more updates-We're to release a bunch more testimonials from major corporations very soon-stay tuned....

What does MPG mean to you? When someone documents MPG before its use, then MPG after, how does that not equate to fuel efficiency?

I made the statement about the Unsers using the product because of the comment that just because they put their name on something, doesn't mean they endorse it...but there is video coverage, a written statement saying that it's more than just a mere sponsorship, but a partnership and not just for racing, but for their personal vehicles...you'll see this on many of the reports above that it's not just the companies who believe in the product (seeing the results) but individuals for themselves in their personal vehicles...


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Have you read those reports you cited?

Not one of them measures fuel efficiency
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Old 05-01-2008, 09:31 AM   #4
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What does MPG mean to you? When someone documents MPG before its use, then MPG after, how does that not equate to fuel efficiency?
The reports you posted indicated a decrease in emissions. Not an increase in fuel efficiency.

EDIT: An apology is in order. *Some* of the reports do indicate a fuel efficiency improvement. I would, however, like to reiterate that for most of the reports, the focus is on emissions reductions. Additionally, rather than reading a report from a company (that may be compensated to say nice things about your product) it would be nice to see a gas log on this site from you and a couple of others that show some results. As they say, "talk is cheap."



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I made the statement about the Unsers using the product because of the comment that just because they put their name on something, doesn't mean they endorse it...
Sure, and I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell to you.
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Old 05-01-2008, 10:00 AM   #5
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WOW- A bridge in Brooklyn- just for me?
Scientific results: reduce emissions (gas going out your tail pipe, keeping gas in the tank where it belongs= fuelage increase) am I the only one who gets the concept? No I guess I'm not, based on results and how many people are contacting me to get more info...but I guess I mean on this forum


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The reports you posted indicated a decrease in emissions. Not an increase in fuel efficiency.

EDIT: An apology is in order. *Some* of the reports do indicate a fuel efficiency improvement. I would, however, like to reiterate that for most of the reports, the focus is on emissions reductions. Additionally, rather than reading a report from a company (that may be compensated to say nice things about your product) it would be nice to see a gas log on this site from you and a couple of others that show some results. As they say, "talk is cheap."





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Scientific results: reduce emissions (gas going out your tail pipe, keeping gas in the tank where it belongs= fuelage increase)
Do you have a link (or citation) to a scientific publication that explains how particulate emissions are related to fuel efficiency?
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The product causes fuel to burn cleaner, more efficiently (99.9%)..therefore the unburned fuel is burnt(put to use), giving you more gas mileage, rather than just sitting in your tank, turning to soot and pollution , then spewed as emissions into the environment...it's explained on the Fuel Reformulator Video-middle page

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The Unsers are using the product (you'll also hear this on the conference call- they were not paid to say what they're saying..)
If they are sponsored in any way by the company, then yes, they are or have been paid.

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Here is an Equity Research Report

Financial data doesn't really present any actual performance data.

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Here's documented reports/tests from bus charters to Southwest Research Institute to Precision Motors to Allied Waste resultsto Extreme Motor Sports (note: this was documented in 2006- a measuring tool is provided right on the bottle now (2008) to make life easier) North Miami Research North Miami Results Tractor Data Petro Ecuador Testing Coca-Cola Results-San Diego

By providing these documented test results, I am not asking you to "take it by faith" but giving you proof...You don't have to believe me, in fact don't- that's ok...There's enough research here to make the military sit up and take notice (as we speak) but..."you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink"
Can you provide links to these documents that aren't all hosted on the same server? You know, like from the companies/organizations directly? I can put up a bunch of official looking documents on my webserver too, but that alone doesn't make them legitimate.
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I just wanted to say thanks for the laugh. At first I was wondering why you all were even replying to such a post. This "lady"s post has more red flags than a circus.
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