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03-16-2006, 07:54 PM
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Intake air flow modification
Wanted to see how intake air would affect FE with increased airflow and then with a restricted airflow. Removed the original 18” airduct that went from the air box to the forward corner of the engine compartment and replaced it with a 4” long piece of 2” diameter PVC that is directed towards the exhaust manifold. Reset the ECU and did runs with car configured with normal, 2” hose, and restrictor plate on a 41 mile test loop. The restrictor plate was made buy covering 2” hose with cardboard with a 1”x1”hole cut in the center. Each mod showed an improvement. With the restrictor there was a slight decrease in acceleration but good drivability. Max RPM was 3575 and Max speed was 60 MPH.
The restricted airflow shows promise but I forgot to reset the ECU for that run. During the run with the restricted airflow when I would shift into neutral to coast the idle RPM would only drop to around 1300 until the car would come to a stop then drop down to it’s normal 650 RPM. Towards the end of the run the idle was dropping to 1000 RPM so I think that it will eventually get back to its 700-800 RPM range which will save on fuel. Scan gauge results below.
Conditions: Beginning of runs calm winds 76
End of runs calm winds 70
Normal 36.4 MPG
40.0 MPH Avg
2’ Hose 37.0 MPG
38 MPH Avg
Restricted 37.3 MPG
39.0 MPH Avg
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03-16-2006, 10:26 PM
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Excellent test. I'm going
Excellent test. I'm going to throw this into the Experiment's forum in hopes that other people repeat your test and post their results as well.
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03-17-2006, 06:34 AM
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I had that idea to block off
I had that idea to block off some flow a while ago, but never mentioned it cuz I forgot,  , I'm glad someone clever with a scangauge got about to testing it.
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03-17-2006, 06:44 AM
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what's the fuel-saving
what's the fuel-saving theory behind restricting airflow?
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03-17-2006, 06:52 AM
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I believe it is less airflow
I believe it is less airflow per throttle position, more throttle, less pumping losses, therefore equal power for less.
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03-17-2006, 08:49 AM
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I'm just guessing
I’m just guessing but there is probably a sweet spot on the amount of air restricted to get the best fuel flow and still have performance acceleration without getting squashed getting on the highway. I basically reduced the airflow by 2/3. The original area of the 2” opening was 3.14 reduced to 1. I might try ¾” x ¾” opening in the restrictor and see if it chokes off to much air. The way it is set up now the acceleration starts to drop off once the RPM reach about 3200. My normal shift point on the automatic is 2500 RPM. I think that most of the fuel saving comes from the acceleration factor so if you were doing a lot of highway miles it might not show any improvement.
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03-17-2006, 09:42 AM
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Re: I believe it is less airflow
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Originally Posted by SVOboy
I believe it is less airflow per throttle position, more throttle, less pumping losses, therefore equal power for less.
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Perhaps this is part of the reason behind the smaller diameter throttle body on the D15Z1, 40mm vs 56mm I think?
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03-17-2006, 10:10 AM
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Quote:Perhaps this is part
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Perhaps this is part of the reason behind the smaller diameter throttle body on the D15Z1, 40mm vs 56mm I think?
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I am in agreement, but the manifold is also vastly different to suit that so it's not just the smaller TB. I'd say a D15Z1 IM/TB would be quite a good FE upgrade, considering the way it is designed with the resonance and all that that Bunger explained.
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03-17-2006, 10:51 AM
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Re: I believe it is less airflow
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Originally Posted by SVOboy
I believe it is less airflow per throttle position, more throttle, less pumping losses, therefore equal power for less.
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i don't get it. help me out here.
assume 2000 rpm constant load and no restrictor plate. let's say the throttle is open at 4 out of 10.
now add a restrictor plate. to maintain 2000 rpm, now the throttle must be open to, say, 6 out of 10.
since we're at the same engine speed (load/power output), we must be consuming the same amount of energy (gas), and also inhaling the same amount of air.
it seems to me like all we've done is shift the location of the intake restriction from the throttle plate towards the restrictor plate - with no net change in pumping losses.
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03-17-2006, 10:58 AM
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Another thing I would be
Another thing I would be concerned about is the TPS. On OBD2 at least, the TPS plays a part in fuel injection rate. If you had to open the throttle more it seems like the ECU would want to dump in more fuel.
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