Fuel Additives Poll

[bowtieguy]

this one claims to bust myths about E10, but it does not directly answer the lube issues in respect to fuel delivery issues...http://www.shell.com.au/home/content...nol_in_petrol/

[bowtieguy]

and some debate if we get E15 shoved down our throats...http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/10/au...er=rss&emc=rss

IF manufacturers of new cars do not recommend E15, then what of long term ill affects of E10 on older vehicles? hmmmmmm...

[GasSavers_GasUser]

I voted "I use it to keep the fuel system clean".

I use Techron Fuel System Cleaner about every 6 months or so added to the fuel tank when gassing up. So I don't use it very often as all gas has cleaning detergents in it anyway.

1) Overuse might possibly damage the injectors. (not sure)

2) If the fuel delivery system (think injectors too) is kept clean it might possibly keep your fuel economy at the most efficient that it can be.

Note that I have no real documented proof of these two things, but it is just my thoughts on it.

[bowtieguy]

Originally Posted by GasUser

Note that I have no real documented proof of these two things, but it is just my thoughts on it.

no worries there--the "proof" is often manipulated. besides, E10 hasn't been fully integrated for very long, so long term effects(good and bad) are likely unknown.

[add|ct]

I wonder if it fouls up sensors faster than pre-e10 days? Due to the need of the added detergents and cleaners concocted for the ethanol blended gas.

That said, how is it known how any 1 cleaner can damage a sensor or converter? SeaFoam claims safe with 02 sensors and helps 'clean' the cat to reduce the 'rotten eggs' smell. Maybe carburetors, but cats.? I'm just glad they'd say it won't damage those parts...but is it really a guarantee they are held to or just an advertising scheme?

[RedAccord02]

none for me

[add|ct]

My dad claims they used to use Tranny fluid at times in the old carburetor fuel systems, but mainly back in his day growing up(70s). Wonder how that would work on fuel-injected fuel systems or what the potential draw backs would be for using that in your fuel line.

EDIT: Or just even with ethanol in the gas now.

[bowtieguy]

i was considering this...http://www.amazon.com/STA-BIL-22240-.../dp/B001CAW2DK for an ethanol combatant for my mowers and cars.

[shatto]

Amsoil PI is about ten times stronger than Techron and is supposed to clean carbon and, more important, gas fouling from injector spray on intake valves as well as cleaning the injectors.

That said; I used it half a dozen times and usually used a pint of water a couple times a year.
When I did the valve job at 350,000 miles there was some carbon on the pistons.

Amsoil told me to use PI with every fill-up. For me that is a treatment every day or two.

Leads to the question of if any gas treatment is worth the money.....especially since all gas stations have detergent in all of their gasolines.

[Jay2TheRescue]

I wonder if its necessary to run water occasionally anymore. Ethanol blended fuel will absorb water from the air, so in the normal course of driving you should have some amount of steam in the cylinders which may help keep valves clean.