Why we don't have 50 mpg cars.

[GasSavers_ALS]

newsweek

[DarbyWalters]

Only a couple of those are stellar IMO. Honda Accord LX (21-31) and Mazda MX-5 (22-27) and they are in top ten. Others that can't break 40 mpg highway?

Of course, over half the dirvers here with no major mods...justs driving techniques and psi...could pull some impressive numbers I am sure.

[brucepick]

I say the reason is - car makers respond to the lowest common denominators in consumers, and that l.c.d. in vehicles includes a lack of interest in mpg.

What we should have done years ago:
We should have tasked NASA with the job of creating real, applied solutions to all our energy issues. If powers-that-be gripe that NASA is strictly about space, create a new agency, de-fund NASA severely, fund the new one, and let all the engineers go there. Put it about 30-45 minutes drive away from the Florida "space coast" area so that people could work there without reorganizing their lives seriously.

[bowtieguy]

opening paragraph...

"...when consumers decide they want to but it." says it all.

would that be when gas is $6/gal? yes says the accompanying article "How High Should Gas Prices Go?"

i have no problem with $6/gal gas as long as the govt cuts THEIR spending as well, and eliminates MOST other taxes, "fair tax" style!

[JESSE69]

When gas was less than $2 / gal people thought there was endless gas and they weren't inot buying FE cars. Like I hardly see many Civic HXs in used caar ads or on the road.

[R.I.D.E.]

The technology is there right now, and they don't have to be sardine cans.

Give Gayle Banks a 2 liter diesel engine and he can get 250 HP out of it while passing emissions with ease. Plenty of power for a nice sized pickup truck.

Put a 1 liter 125HP version in a Prius body with a wide range CVT and you can easily get 50. Add a lauch assist hydraulic rear axle and it would get 65 around town, with acceleration that would scare most soccer moms to death.

So lets assume they did it tomorrow. Pick a manufacturer, say Ford (for no good reason) Your Ford dealer has a 2500 pound 5 passenger car that gets an honest to god 55 MPg average. people are waiting in line with their checkbooks, while the rest of the over 100 million cars in the US just became worthless rolling scrap yards.

The other manufacturers go bankrupt and their inventory on new vehicles is sold for scrap while people wait for Ford to build 130 million cars. Ford has to sublet manufacturing to the other bankrupt manufacturers after buying their manufacturing facilities at yard sale prices.

The governments scared to death they will have to double the gas taxes to maintain revenue for road repairs.

Oil company stocks are falling like meterorites.

At 57 MPG average for the last 3 k miles I'm ready.

regards
gary

[bowtieguy]

Originally Posted by R.I.D.E.

The governments scared to death they will have to double the gas taxes to maintain revenue for road repairs.

and congress(and local govt reps) is scared their pockets will not be filled.

[theholycow]

That would be an interesting event, but that's not how it would go down. The demand would not be anywhere near as high as you suggest, and the other manufacturers would step up and compete.

The Prius is already EPA rated 48 city, 45 highway, and the Civic hybrid is already 40/45. They're selling but not revolutionarily so.

[dm1333]

I averaged about 45 on the highway over the life of the car. On some trips I actually broke the 50 mpg barrier, including a drive from Forks, WA to Sacramento, CA where I averaged 52 mpg all the way through to Ashland, OR. My speed was a steady 60. At 160,000 miles the compression was still within specs and the mileage was still good.

[96hb]

I think gas prices would have to reach astronomical levels for any of that to take place. Because no matter how much people may gripe about it, there are still tons of people out there that are just willing to bite the bullet and pay whatever it costs to fill up their large SUV's and whatnot. It would have to get high enough to hurt these people's pockets, and that would probably be $10+ a gallon, IMO. It sucks, but it's just reality. Some people just have that kind of money to blow. I will stick to my Civic.