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08-17-2009, 06:26 AM
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While a new fuel efficient vehicle would be hard to make pay for itself, I did just that.
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That statement changes easily for someone who drives a lot of miles.
TCO can also be cheaper. Economy cars can to be cheaper to maintain (tires for my VW cost 1/3 what tires for my GMC cost, for example). If the car is a new car and the old vehicle is not, repair costs can factor in. In my case, having an additional car means if something breaks, a vehicle can sit broken in the yard for weeks while I learn how to fix it a little at a time, rather than pay labor and towing for it to get fixed professionally. (I feel differently about DIY repair when the ground is covered in snow, though.)
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08-17-2009, 09:19 AM
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{according to this http://www.fordf150.net/specs/04ranger.php, the AT can tow more than the MT on a 4 cyl ranger?}
That's mostly CYA. The manufactorer has no control over the driving abilities of the person that'll be doing the towing, so with the MT they rate lower.
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08-18-2009, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bowtieguy
well, you know how that can be an excuse. ya know, "i might need to tow something, sometime."
obviously, unless a load of sod or concrete is being towed, most 4 cyl can fill the need.
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Bowtie is right, it is more of an excuse, however I do enjoy the room and use of my crewcab truck, which I can not get in a 4 cyl. In reality if I really had to tow something big, I could borrow my Dad's 3500 GMC Duramax, it usually gets the job done. On a side note my truck is a King Ranch edition and I've gotten spoiled driving a nice truck, where most of the 4 cyl. are your lower end trucks.
I appreciate all of yalls comments and suggestions.
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08-19-2009, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Greeen
Bowtie is right, it is more of an excuse, however I do enjoy the room and use of my crewcab truck, which I can not get in a 4 cyl. In reality if I really had to tow something big, I could borrow my Dad's 3500 GMC Duramax, it usually gets the job done. On a side note my truck is a King Ranch edition and I've gotten spoiled driving a nice truck, where most of the 4 cyl. are your lower end trucks.
I appreciate all of yalls comments and suggestions.
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thank you for not taking that as a personal attack, 'cause that was not my intent--it was just a general comment.
we all have excuses and/or are hypocritical to some degree. behaviors are learned and can be changed. all we can do is try to make small changes a little at a time...
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08-19-2009, 06:46 PM
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I have an idea. Let's all buy whatever we want because it is what we want, whatever that reason is.
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08-19-2009, 07:00 PM
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We comment on it because eh holes solo commuting in Expeditions and Hummers DO impact the rest of us, as a safety hazard on the road and in increased fuel costs due to the increased demand they foster.
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08-19-2009, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by theclencher
We comment on it because eh holes solo commuting in Expeditions and Hummers DO impact the rest of us, as a safety hazard on the road and in increased fuel costs due to the increased demand they foster.
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And bumper sticker infested automobiles irritate me, as do people driving while; reading, texting, phoning, driving while asian, and women farding while they drive. Your government should ban that too, so your sensabilities would not be offended?
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08-19-2009, 08:51 PM
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4-bangers CAN tow, but like Holy Cow said, not a 26' camper. When I moved to my current location (18 years ago), I had a '76 Chevy Luv with a 1.8 liter Isuzu engine. I made a couple trips from Long Beach to Lancaster, Calif. with a full load in the bed and a fully loaded U-Haul trailer. Did just fine.
Waaaaaaaaay back in the day, my dad towed a full sized mid-30s Nash from central Calif. back to the Glendale area with a '37 Willys pickup...
But...if you regularly go with your big toy-hauler, you'll want the bigger truck...
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