Toyota

[spotaneagle]

oh when I said fail I meant about the passanger leg room

I guess that was a little extra faily, I just remember RIDE complaining about never being able to align his corolla, and being in a newer one and hearing it from the driver about the bad handling, cause I asked if the car handles well. I think its got the sogs or something is all no biggy.



look what I just found
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNslb...eature=related

the corolla has a ride so smooth he is cutting toxic blowfish on this windy road

as far as I could remember stiffer suspension= handle better, plus if you look at the corolla the center of gravity is real high, it seems that way, but thats just my perception. then you go and throw factory steelies on it with hubs and sorta good tires, and you get a whole buncha BLAH.

[theholycow]

Plenty of smooth-riding vehicles handle well too. Many Cadillacs, for example. Any demonstration in a tv commercial is worthless, so I wouldn't take that blowfish thing too seriously.

That said, the Corolla isn't marketed as a car for people who want excitement and plenty of people report lackluster handling. That's the last thing that would worry me about it, though; in real-world driving on actual roads, I can make an ill-handling car stick better than most people will ever try with a sports car. I'd happily trade lowered handling limits for a softer ride in most cars.

[GasSavers_Scott]

Toyota went cheap, the generation 2 Prius, the iconic Hybrid was perfect, it used the Yaris 1500 engine. The new Prius uses the Daiwoo 1800.

Today in congress, Toyota admitted that they use source parts from Indonisia, people in poor conditions making 5 to 10 dollars a week.

Chrysler or Mitsubishi/Daimler uses source parts from Indonisia, maufactured in Brazil and assembled in America.

It's good old fashioned greed, CEO's and corporate jets are the bonus from making a part for 50 cents, rather than 5 dollars.

Had a 1980 Toyota pick up, 650,000 miles, had a 82 Toyota Celica GT, 425,000 miles.

Had a 1986 MR2, electrical nightmare that could not be fixed by the dealer or specialist. Then had a 1996 Toyota Corolla, same thing, electrics, bought it for 2600, spent 2000 in repairs and gave the car away.

The way I figure Toyota owes me 2 cars, so after they get over this little accelerator problem, they can pay up.

[spotaneagle]

oh man this is funny this week im realizing the ineptituse of the cafe sipper mocha viva loca de loana

also on the subject seeing this guy blowing away production costs of solar panels:
http://www.alternative-heating-info....ow_heater.html
can't afford to upgrade? yea ok

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by Scott

The new Prius uses the Daiwoo 1800.

Daewoo, the Korean car company owned by GM?

[spotaneagle]

well at least the replacement engine will only be 300 at the junker

also wasnt the bigger engine to give the prius better mpg? because of the lower rpm needed and better low end torque I thought that was a 1.9...

[spotaneagle]

japan shouldn't be dominating the american car market, however the video game market is a different subject,

now is when gm and ford swoop in and win I guess

My only real conviction here is that I'd rather drive an American 40mpg car from 2000+ than a Japanese one considering the models available,
actually I'd like to hack the crap out of one to get 60 mpg

gm aka Motor Liquidation copr.
wait doesnt honda sell a hybrid

[Jay2TheRescue]

Its not really Japan dominating the US car market anymore. Its quickly becoming Korea. I don't think China is far behind though. We will probably see Chinese vehicles in US showrooms within 5 years.

[trollbait]

and Indian

[Fuel Miser]

Seems like only yesterday buying a Hyundai was a calculated risk, today they're on practically every publication's "Best Of" list. Let's hope one hopeful will attempt to capitalize on the dearth of inexpensive, fuel efficient cars available to the American market. Competition is the basis for a free market economy.