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12-11-2007, 02:31 PM
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The case for motorcycles. Why not use one?
As of this writing 6 of the top ten on this site are motorcycles or scooters. It's no surprise that these are very efficient forms of basic transportation, witness thier widespread use in developing countries where fuel is a large expense.
For most commuting requirements they fit the bill very nicely. They are reliable, cheap to buy, cheap to own, easy to fix and augment owning a vehicle with carrying capacity well.
So a question to the forum participants: Who ISN'T using one that would like to, and what's keeping you from buying one?
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12-11-2007, 02:53 PM
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Well, in many countries, the fuel culture is very different.
First, there are places that have incredible taxes added to the price of gasoline. Europe is a great example.
Next, using Europe as another example, vehicle taxes are huge. So, if you'd like something like a 3.0l V6 VW, you're gonna spend thousands extra for the purchase in addition to thousands extra every year over the cost of registering a car with a smaller displacement. I know that limit used to be around 1.6 to 1.8l engines. That's why there were so many smaller engined cars coming from Europe that had good mileage that the US didn't have.
More, storage is a premium. So, keeping a larger car in a city that's been existance for 1000 years can be hard. You just don't have the available garage space, or road space.
So, a motorcycle fits in a small area, uses less gas, and it doesn't cost as much to own. With taxation very high, affordability is important.
So, the culture has had motorcycles as a regular part of the "road scape" for a long, long time.
Here, well, I don't think people pay attention very well. I have raced motorcycles for over twenty years now, and, frankly, it's scary out there on the road with the cars and blue haired ladies turning left in front of you.
yes, I would lover to travel through Yellowstone by bike, but I still prefer an air conditioned ride getting there with the family.
Occasionally, I do get a yearning for a street ride. More for the tinkering aspect and the unique opportunities that one do with relatively inexpensively with motorcycles of all brands.
My current bikes, race only: SV1000S and a GSXR750. I have an old H1 in the works, but that's an on going project.
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12-11-2007, 02:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beatr911
So a question to the forum participants: Who ISN'T using one that would like to, and what's keeping you from buying one?
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Safety. I think I'd kill myself inside a week, haha..... plus in the winter time, a motorcycle is out of the question, here in Colorado.
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12-11-2007, 02:57 PM
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uhm, mostly because it won't tow my trailer and equipment.
As for the cars, I hardly put 5,000 miles a year on them both, then I'd rather drive less still before I get on a bike, if it came to that.
Because I'd rather get crappy mileage but great economy, then there's the safety factor.
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12-11-2007, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jBubb
plus in the winter time, a motorcycle is out of the question, here in Colorado.
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LOL!
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12-11-2007, 03:24 PM
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Too many idiots on the road here to get a bike. I mean, I'd LOVE one. 50-60mpg driving to work would cut my expenses enough for the bike to actually pay for itself, but I can't bring myself to buy one with the way people drive here in New Mexico.
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12-11-2007, 05:28 PM
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Most people will respect a motorcyclist, but there are always a few idiots that either don't pay attention or claim "I didn't see you". Always ride with an escape plan - plan on them NOT seeing you.
Riding a 2 wheel vehicle is higher risk and you are more exposed - to the weather and bodily harm. Icy or packed snow on roads can be very tricky.
Storage or hauling is limited. But you can get creative with tank bags and saddlebags. Or using lots of bungee straps.
Most motorcycles are much dirtier than a modern car in respect to emissions. A few have catalytic converters (mainly newer models).
Fuel mileage can be great with a small to medium sized bike that is ridden with economy in mind ( resist the calling to blast thru the gears!)
Years ago I would ride year round. Now I'm a wimp - when the temps get below 50 deg F, I stop riding.
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12-11-2007, 06:28 PM
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Check out what's been happening in the Midwest over the past week. I'd be up a creek. In fact, many of the shop guys razz me up for not having a truck in this weather!
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12-11-2007, 10:23 PM
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License is the only reason I don’t have one. If it was as easy to get a license here in Japan as it was in the states, I would have had a license 2 years ago. Unfortunately, there are a lot of problems with getting one, and the BS bureaucracy here. I will try for one next year just to see how bad it really is, and I don’t want to waste all of the work I have done to make the pencil pushers happy with my paperwork. Plus it will be great information for those who come after me who want to get their motorcycle license in my program. We have accumulated a lot of car information, but the bike information is completely lacking.
Next, the safety thing isn’t as big a deal here. There are enough scooters everywhere that most people know what to look for. But, I ride like everyone in a cage is a blind deaf idiot hell-bent on killing me, so it won’t really matter as much. Plus, it would be nice to have two vehicles, that have less displacement then one of my father’s truck cylinders.
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12-11-2007, 10:26 PM
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I'm just broke and way to scared off the michigan winter. A ninja 250 would be amazing though
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