prices vs posts here...

[slurp812]

Originally Posted by Jay2TheRescue

I've run a couple of reports, I'll post some charts once I get them cleaned up and uploaded to Photobucket.

Thanks! That tells the whole story!!
I would also like to add that our diligence is, at least in some small percentage, responsible for keeping the prices down! So I say we try harder. I like cheap gas, and want it to stay that way. Just my way of flipping the bird to OPEC!

[dkjones96]

This forum is dead... what am I supposed to do at work now?!?!

[theholycow]

Join a truck forum. They're pretty lively lately.

[R.I.D.E.]

I don't want to flip OPEC the bird, I want to bury the cartel permanently. Make them compete for dollars just like we have to compete. Watch the organization disintegrate as they decide they would rather drop their prices rather than sell nothing.

In fact we could use some of their own medicine on them, selective boycotts of OPEC members who try to maintain any monoply.

If they were US corporations they would all be in jail for collusion to fix prices. If they want to act like criminals, we should respond accordingly.

I sold my VX to a friend who was driving a 12 MPG truck, because he had to be able to tow a 4 horse trailer. His mileage has increased by almost 400%, while mine has actually increased slightly.

Last local 36 mile drive today for me was 63.2 MPG. Mileage since last tank was 57.8 MPG. Thats about 2.6 cents a mile, compared to 1 cent a mile in 1968.

This community has made a difference, lots of people come here and just read and learn. The knowledge base is very comprehensive, without bias towards anything except what works.

I see people driving very differently every day. Last week on a single trip from Williamsburg to Richmond, I saw 17 people stopped and being ticketed by State Troopers. I told a trooper friend, some months ago, they needed to enforce the speed limits to make it safer for those of us who like to drive the speed limit. he told me he did not think it would ever be done.

Now with the economy in the tank, apparently the State has decided to dramtically increase its speed limit enforcement, and it seems to be slowing people down. With anything over 80 in VA being reckless (65 zone) the fine is $500. It doesn't take to many 4 point $500 tickets to make any sane person slow down.

I hope once they get everyone slowed down, then they start to enforce the tailgating and agressive driver laws, because some of these idiots around here are still following one car length at 70 MPH.

Regards
Gary

[GasSavers_SD26]

I'll look for more mileage even if gas or diesel is 50 cents. It's only reasonable as it's my money that I produce.


I think there are good techniques on this site. Some of them put on in non compliance of the law, so it is a risk. There's plenty of toutes of incredible mileage with no data to support it.

It's not in the a government's best interest for use to get good mileage. There are so many claims that it can be "willed" into existence even if the technology does not exist.

Next, if one were the inventor, governments just tax, so why even bring it to market. There's not much reward for one's work.

I keep hoping that someone will have some more shaking ideas on this forum. I do like the hydraulic hybrid though. If that goes through and is manufactured along with electric cars, one can be certain that the taxation from the government will skyrocket because of reduced consumption of fuels. Really, I think we have huge freedom from government problems.

[GasSavers_BEEF]

funny you should talk about taxation. north carolina is looking at several options because of the lost tax revenue (funny how that works) from the decreased demand of gas.

one that is really out there is a 1/4th cent per mile tax to be paid at the end of each year. this is just a proposal but they want to get your odometer reading each year to compare to last years and tax you accordingly.

in the end, they are going to get there money. if it isn't in the price of a gallon of fuel, it will be somewhere.

I also hope to see the hydraulic hybrid some day. maybe there will be some even wilder ideas to come also.

[GasSavers_SD26]

Yeah, that's the next step.

I'm looking for work, and we're doing fine. I don't want to contribute to the taxes and the redistribution of wealth. I'll probably look for some cash jobs, do more through my corporation, and I'm seriously considering going off the grid for electricity...as I won't be required to pay for various programs to support others. I can do that on my own as part of my decision process.

I don't even want to be part of this contribution to a failed business in GM and Chrysler. Must be that Ford has gotten their act together somehow. Not sure how that's done, but I'm sure they still have work to do.

[Greyg]

Ford doesn't need the loan because they had financial trouble a few years ago and took out mortgages on all their factories. They have a ton of cash but also a ton of debt. They're not in any better shape, they just mortgaged their factories for the cash instead of borrowing it from the government.

[GasSavers_SD26]

Originally Posted by Greyg

Ford doesn't need the loan because they had financial trouble a few years ago and took out mortgages on all their factories. They have a ton of cash but also a ton of debt. Their not in any better shape, they just mortgaged their factories for the cash instead of borrowing it from the government.

Good for them, and good for me. Their risk on their viability is theirs rather than mine, and that means that their repayment is in the hands of an actual bank that finds them viable rather than the poor, inefficient operation of the government that takes our money.

[Greyg]

We would be paying one way or another. If GM and Chrysler were to go under there would be up to 3 million lost jobs, not just the UAW, suppliers, truck drivers, the company that makes the little clips for windshield washer fluid etc. That would be a loss of income for the governmet via payroll taxes. We are a Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep dealer and if we were to lose the new car end of the business we would have to cut our staff in half because of lost income from new car sales, warranty work, and parts and accessories, that equals higher unemployment and more loss of income for the government via taxes etc. The way the bailout is structured GM and Chrysler have to show a feasable plan by the end of march or repay the money. If they are unable to repay the money I'm sure the government will sieze the companies assests and factories and maybe even try to run the business themselves and then you will have what you want, failure of the company.