New Dodge sub-compact from China.

[Telco]

The rants may be that, but they are accurate. Dismissing them because they don't align with a particular viewpoint, and calling opposing viewpoints "phobic drivel" and aligned viewpoints "informed" is short sighted and narrow minded, and shows in itself a lack of information. It's called Chinese junk because the stuff is junk, and made in China. The Chinese have long had a culture of doing what they need to, with no regard to the consequences.

The video of the crash testing shows that their vehicles are unsafe beyond any possibility of calling the testing slanted. That car was tested with standardized tests, and failed horribly. No way I'd want a car that sits the engine in the BACK seat in a 40MPH crash. This video shows a Chinese 4x4 pushing the front passengers up like an accordian. Sure, the airbags deploy, but the dash, firewall and engine is also deployed into the passenger compartment. The only thing the airbag would do is ensure death in that accident. Then there's this 4-door sedan test that pushes the dash into the driver's head while buckling the roof and almost popping the driver's door off. Junk, junk and more junk. On the other hand, the [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju6t-yyoU8s&mode=related&search=]Smart Car] can hit a concrete wall at 70MPH, and the passenger compartment stays intact. You can even open the doors. So, Chinese cars are built to kill you in otherwise survivable accidents, while other nation's vehicles are built to survive a harder wreck than the people inside can handle, meaning that it won't be a failure on the car's part if you die in a wreck.

[omgwtfbyobbq]

Originally Posted by Telco

The rants may be that, but they are accurate. Dismissing them because they don't align with a particular viewpoint, and calling opposing viewpoints "phobic drivel" and aligned viewpoints "informed" is short sighted and narrow minded, and shows in itself a lack of information. It's called Chinese junk because the stuff is junk, and made in China. The Chinese have long had a culture of doing what they need to, with no regard to the consequences.

No posts here have been accurate in any way, shape, or form. All the statements made here regarding Chinese manufactured goods are qualitative, not quantitative. Which is besides the point, since they are still generalizations, and compare cars that are literally $3-6000 to cars that are $10-20000. If you pay more you're more likely to get more. Hell, these probably do better than plenty of 80s automobiles that currently fetch the same price used, but I don't see anyone ranting about those...

[Spule 4]

Originally Posted by omgwtfbyobbq

No posts here have been accurate in any way, shape, or form. All the statements made here regarding Chinese manufactured goods are qualitative, not quantitative. Which is besides the point, since they are still generalizations, and compare cars that are literally $3-6000 to cars that are $10-20000. If you pay more you're more likely to get more. Hell, these probably do better than plenty of 80s automobiles that currently fetch the same price used, but I don't see anyone ranting about those...

Really, wages are not going up, materials are not going up, they are not having environmental problems and China has no AIDS or civil rights violations under their belt......

WTF?

[omgwtfbyobbq]

Originally Posted by Spule 4

Really, wages are not going up, materials are not going up, they are not having environmental problems and China has no AIDS or civil rights violations under their belt......

WTF?

qual?i?ta?tive
?adjective
pertaining to or concerned with quality or qualities.

quan?ti?ta?tive
?adjective
1. that is or may be estimated by quantity.
2. of or pertaining to the describing or measuring of quantity.

First off the thread is about cars, specifically that compact made by Chery, not human rights violations, environmental problems, or anything else along those lines. Second, those are all qualitative statements. A quantitative statement would be something like, "China's NOx emissions have increase to Xppm on average in urban areas." Etc...

WTF?

[88HF]

I don't know why everyone here is saying its the Chinese fault... that they have no regard. They are simply misled by their government and allowed no hope for a better future... or at least their hope is what they are brainwashed into thinking. Not that the US doesn't have its own brainwashing. My point is, the Chinese are not born horrible people. There are just too many of them, extremely low standards of living. These things will improve for some as their middle-class rises, but they have a corrupt communist government. What can you expect? Even talking about this on gassavers promises that it will be censored on the Chinese internet. Greed and corruption is the same thing thats wrong with our country.

[Spule 4]

Originally Posted by 88HF

I don't know why everyone here is saying its the Chinese fault... that they have no regard. They are simply misled by their government and allowed no hope for a better future...

Mislead by their government? Turn on the news, just this week we saw that it was BUSINESS that was mis-leading the government in the form of bribes....and their top Safety and Health guy is now dead!

[baddog671]

And two brands of toothpaste sold in Spain were pulled from store shelves after the substance was found, the European Union said Tuesday.

Nice article. I was talking to a friend in Spain the other day and we got on the subject of China. Seems they sell "faulty ****t" (as she put it) to every nation.

China is so uncoordinated and corupt, its empire will not rise again..

Edit:

But hey, it may improve, it is now illegal to put Glycol in toothpaste there, so that is a start!

Think that will really stop all of them though? Im sure some producers will still sneak it in...

[Spule 4]

Originally Posted by baddog671

Nice article. I was talking to a friend in Spain the other day and we got on the subject of China. Seems they sell "faulty ****t" (as she put it) to every nation.

China is so uncoordinated and corupt, its empire will not rise again..

Edit:

Think that will really stop all of them though? Im sure some producers will still sneak it in...

Read my post, then read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

[baddog671]

Spule, I was agreeing with you, not criticizing your opinion...

[baddog671]

Not only are their products complete junk, I think its sad how dependent America's economy is to China. You can turn darn near everything upside down and see the "Made in China" on it. Everything! What happend to "Made in USA"?

I will tell you, one of the scariest things that happend to me was when I was using a vehicle spring compressor that was made in china and it broke. For those who dont know how much force is behind a car spring, I had to compress mine to nearly 2000 psi. Ejected springs will rip your head off and go straight threw the wall behind it..

The next time you are at the grocery store, check this out. Find any kind of apple juice, doesn't matter what brand. It is all from China. Meanwhile,last season in a huge orchard nearby, the apples were let to rott and all the workers fired because it was cheaper to do so than harvest them...