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Old 10-26-2005, 05:19 PM   #1
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Mothballs / Napthalene / WD40

So, crushing up some mothballs into your tank, 5 per 1 gallon I think, might be for only carbed, but I've seen FI to, heard 2-3 mpg on a mazda protege. 99% napthalene type you need

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WD40........

"Major ingredients based on the November 2003 MSDS data:

CAS 8052-41-3 Stoddard Solvent 50%
CAS 64742-65-0 Petroleum base oil 25%
CAS 64742-47-8 Naptha 15%

Butyl Carbitol may still be part of the formulation, but only as a
minor percentage."

Common element between WD40 and mothballs is naptha and napthalyene?

"Naphtha is a group of various volatile flammable liquid hydrocarbon
mixtures used chiefly as solvents.

It is obtained from petroleum refineries as the portion of the
distillate which is intermediate between the lighter gasoline and the
heavier benzene. Naphtha has a specific gravity of about 0.7.

It is also the main ingredient in some lighter fluids for wick type
lighters like Zippo lighters. Other uses include removing tar,
grease, oil and labels.

See also: naphthalene."
WD40 also said to give 2-3 mpg.

And napthalene is something refined when gas is, so it's not like sugar, should be a good thing to test the heck out.
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:35 PM   #2
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A friend of mine did the math on a Prius and figured that getting a hybrid for the extra money was not worth it - cheeper to just buy gas for a non-hybrid car and you can get a lot of gas for the extra $$ that the Prius will cost you.

3 oz of acetone cost me 32 cents and if I get 1 mpg more per 10 gallons then it saves me 1/4 of a gallon or 2.50/4 - 3.00/4 or about 62-70 cents. I think I get more than a mile per gallon with the acetone.
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:14 PM   #3
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A friend of mine did the math on a Prius and figured that getting a hybrid for the extra money was not worth it - cheeper to just buy gas for a non-hybrid car and you can get a lot of gas for the extra $$ that the Prius will cost you.

3 oz of acetone cost me 32 cents and if I get 1 mpg more per 10 gallons then it saves me 1/4 of a gallon or 2.50/4 - 3.00/4 or about 62-70 cents. I think I get more than a mile per gallon with the acetone.
IT'S NOT ALWAYS ABOUT SAVING MONEY.

Empirically, it's good to use less fuel--period. We're at war w/ the people who have all of the oil. They have jihad against us. If I couls spend a few bucks to stretch my mileage a little more, I would.

I've read that acetone is really bad for your rings, though. Save fuel, wreck engine.
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IT'S NOT ALWAYS ABOUT SAVING MONEY.

Empirically, it's good to use less fuel--period. We're at war w/ the people who have all of the oil. They have jihad against us. If I couls spend a few bucks to stretch my mileage a little more, I would.

I've read that acetone is really bad for your rings, though. Save fuel, wreck engine.
Why would it be bad for your rings? That makes as much sense as people saying that acetone will increase mileage 40%,

That said, who started the war and who's buying the oil. It sounds like we're guilty on both counts.
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WD40 also said to give 2-3 mpg.
My question is, at a cost of $15 a gallon, what am I really gaining here?
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My question is, at a cost of $15 a gallon, what am I really gaining here?
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Why would it be bad for your rings? That makes as much sense as people saying that acetone will increase mileage 40%,

That said, who started the war and who's buying the oil. It sounds like we're guilty on both counts.
I can't say why, myself. Ive read about everything from damaged rings to damaged fuel pumps on the various enthusiast sites I regularly visit. The acetone debate is usually met w/ mockery and skepticism as well as many claims of engine damage.

I guess Mythbusters got worse mileage with it.

http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2006/05/e...onspiracy.html

But that'll get discounted as "pop science"


I'll stick w/ plain ol' gasoline, careful throttle inputs and 67mph on the freeway.
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The acetone/MMO mix isn't expensive given the amounts I use. Acetone is $7 for 32 oz. and the MMO is $3. I think the chief benefit is keeping the injectors clean long term.

For the record, Naphtha and Naphthalene are two different substances. Part of the confusion comes into play because Naphtha is not one chemical compound but a boiling point range in the refining process. Naphthalene is a solid.

I used to work in a QA lab at an aerosol company and tested incoming samples of both Naphtha and WD-40 base concentrate. I wouldn't put WD-40 in my gas tank. The base oil appears to have paraffins (wax) in it.
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The acetone/MMO mix isn't expensive given the amounts I use. Acetone is $7 for 32 oz. and the MMO is $3. I think the chief benefit is keeping the injectors clean long term.
You can buy a gallon of 100% acetone for around $12-13....128 oz.
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