How many VXs made/surviving?

[roadsterbum]

Apologies if this has been answered before. I tried to do a search but came up short. Do you guys know how many VXs Honda made from '92 to '95? And how many of those survive? (obviously this one would have to be a guess - I would exclude the "B18 swapped" VXs)

Are we talking thousands? Tens of thousands? Hundreds?

[DRW]

Everytime I scan Craigslist for a VX I rarely find one unmodified. Just about every VX has been swapped, riced, or hacked by some deluded kid who thought he had a racecar. When I do find a completely unmodified VX in good condition the owner is asking way too much for it. Add the high theft rate for Hondas and I'll pass.

[SCoupe]

Originally Posted by DRW

Everytime I scan Craigslist for a VX I rarely find one unmodified. Just about every VX has been swapped, riced, or hacked by some deluded kid who thought he had a racecar. When I do find a completely unmodified VX in good condition the owner is asking way too much for it. Add the high theft rate for Hondas and I'll pass.

Patience DRW, and persistence. Speaking from my Bay Area Craiglist experience, they are out there and they do show up, maybe once a month and then only for a few hours before the owners get so bombarded with emails they shut down the ad. Know that nice, priced to sell VXs may appear on craigslist as a "shooting star", they just flash through vs. hanging out unsold.

These fairly priced VXs are posted by sellers who don't bother to be up to date with the trend and price them at KBB or Edmunds pricing. Those VX's go very quickly and the ones you see left hanging around are the ones frustrating you. Know you aren't the only one looking and that you may need a few months to find it.

In my case, the first one I thought I was on my way to buy lasted exactly 30 minutes as someone in the same damn subdivision got there before me, I needed 45 minutes to make the drive to Susiun. 140,000 miles, with A/C, flawless and stock, $2,750. I was shocked as I pulled into the driveway to see a 20 year old kid getting the signed pink slip. The prick seller said cash talks, this after I phoned him in transit and said I would be there in minutes.

I was able to get the second one I went to look at (Martinez). $2000, original owner, A/C, all records, perfectly stock, 214,000. Needed a tranny and clutch and CV joint, put in ~$750, so I came out about the same, the other had better paint.

BTW, "deluded kid who thought he had a racecar", granted many do get screwed up, but enough have gotten into hands of highly skilled tuners who crave the 2,030 pound base weight and the ability to drop in 190 hp Integra engines and create stealth missles out of them that will bury an M3, not to be taken lightly.

[GasSavers_BIBI]

Since I have my VX, I have been lookin upon the market to watch prices and maybe THE one owner 100k perfect VX, but didnt find one (yes but it was 4000$). Anyway, the are becoming harder and harder to find. But there are some. I'm in Quebec, QC, so much far away, and my observation is that there are more VX available on the market during the summer, and in the winter you see one occasionaly.

[StorminMatt]

Originally Posted by SCoupe

BTW, "deluded kid who thought he had a racecar", granted many do get screwed up, but enough have gotten into hands of highly skilled tuners who crave the 2,030 pound base weight and the ability to drop in 190 hp Integra engines and create stealth missles out of them that will bury an M3, not to be taken lightly.

And these 'stealth missiles' STILL get over 30MPG on the freeway!

[friz]

Originally Posted by DRW

Everytime I scan Craigslist for a VX I rarely find one unmodified. Just about every VX has been swapped, riced, or hacked by some deluded kid who thought he had a racecar. When I do find a completely unmodified VX in good condition the owner is asking way too much for it. Add the high theft rate for Hondas and I'll pass.

The problem is that a VX makes a really good race car.

[DRW]

Originally Posted by friz

The problem is that a VX makes a really good race car.

Guess what else makes a good racecar? This car didn't do so good at this event.
Yes, a small and light vehicle makes a good racecar, but something about it just feels wrong.

[StorminMatt]

Originally Posted by Jay2TheRescue

41 seems kinda high, even for a 4 speed. Checking on www.fueleconomy.gov, even the old ratings for that vehicle only show 33 highway.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calcu...olumn=1&id=511

-Jay

I agree that an EPA rating of 33MPG is probably MUCH more in line with what this car was actually capable of (which is still pathetic for an 84HP car). BUT, when the car was sold, it was billed as a car that could get 41MPG on the freeway. In fact, I have an old sales brochure somewhere from back when my dad bought his 1981 Reliant brand new. And this is EXACTLY what it said. But this illustrates VERY well the point I am trying to bring across. Specifically, fuel economy figures from the late 1970s/early 1980s were just WAYYYY out of line with what the vehicles were actually capable of. By the way, I also remember ads for Honda Civics around 1980 saying that it could get over 50MPG. This is just SO grossly above what those cars were capable of that I can't believe some people actually believe it is possible.

Originally Posted by DRW

Guess what else makes a good racecar? This car didn't do so good at this event.
Yes, a small and light vehicle makes a good racecar, but something about it just feels wrong.

There is one little difference you might want to keep in mind between the Civic VX and Insight. Specifically, engine swaps are ridiculously easy with a VX. Hell, it even has all the wiring in place for VTEC if you want to drop that 200HP ITR motor in there. And the ITR drivetrain will drop right in as if the motor is stock! Furthermore, if you want to go H22A, it even has everything you need for the EGR. And although the H22A won't drop in like a stock motor, all you need is a mount kit. Hell, you can even buy a kit from Hasport these days that allows you to drop in one of the V6 motors, like the Odyssey or TL Type-S! But with an Insight, pretty much ANY swap you want to do is going to be a completely custom affair that will require LOTS of fab work. Not exactly the sort of thing your average Honda swapper is either willing or able to take on. Admittedly, a K20-powered Insight would be badass, and probably still get close to 40MPG. But it's just not the sort of thing the average person has either the skills or equipment to pull off.

[1993CivicVX]

Originally Posted by DRW

Everytime I scan Craigslist for a VX I rarely find one unmodified. Just about every VX has been swapped, riced, or hacked by some deluded kid who thought he had a racecar. When I do find a completely unmodified VX in good condition the owner is asking way too much for it. Add the high theft rate for Hondas and I'll pass.

The other day while I was driving I got asked by someone how much for my car. I told him it wasn't for sale. He said he only needed the shell; that he had some performance engine to put in it.

[R.I.D.E.]

I read that about 5% of the 91-95 Civics were VXs, probably 90% of them destroyed.

Mine was totalled in 1995 and repaired in 2008, with 27,472 miles on the odometer. It was like a time capsule.

You will probably never see another one like it-----ever.

regards
gary