how i did it (Fuel heater) - Page 9 - Fuelly Forums

Click here to see important news regarding the aCar App

Go Back   Fuelly Forums > Fuel Talk > General Fuel Topics
Today's Posts Search Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 06-22-2008, 07:36 PM   #81
Registered Member
 
GasSavers_maxc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 166
Country: United States
Everyone would freak out if they saw my fuel heater. If I drive for 4 hours at 40mph the fuel in the tank is 20F higher than out side temps. Witch Is'nt that bad. I thought it would be higher. The exhaust is running 30% cooler now. With HHO too.
__________________

__________________
less lurking and more working
GasSavers_maxc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2008, 07:46 PM   #82
Registered Member
 
Tepco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 45
Country: United States
Quote:
Originally Posted by R.I.D.E. View Post
I was a certified Master Tech in 1978, now I am a tired semi disabled old man, who has two patents pending on designs for vehicle powertrains that I know can make a huge difference in this world and could change the global climate after I am dead and gone.
Cant wait to see what it is, don't let the oil companies buy it out...
__________________

__________________
Gas?? Oh you mean the expensive smelly stuff Grandpa used to power his car with? Silly old Man.

Get off my @ss I'm saving gas!!
Tepco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2008, 07:46 PM   #83
Registered Member
 
GasSavers_maxc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 166
Country: United States
Quote:
Originally Posted by theclencher View Post
This thread is dumb as hell. Ya don't even have to go past the second sentence in the first post to see that.

The beer coozie would be better utilized by putting a nice cold beer in it.
Your right. LOL
__________________
less lurking and more working
GasSavers_maxc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2008, 08:04 PM   #84
Registered Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 46
Country: United States
ok great dont do it....ive seen in run on vehicles for years with no problems and constant mpg....my setup uses armorflex, the guys that made and installed the first one used abeer coozie which worked fine...like i said before it works for me and everyone that had one installed
chope is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2008, 09:04 PM   #85
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 48
Country: United States
Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadWarrior View Post
However, on many engines the fuel rail is nice and cozy against the head, often shielded by intake parts or valve covers, and it soaks near to coolant temperature anyway... but that happens after the FPR and tank return... so I'd say there's probably no risk to the injectors, o-rings etc at that end, because they should be designed to cope with heat soak from the head.
Heat soak will get the temps up for a short time but during normal use the fuel flow with the gas tank acting as a radiator keeps the temps down everywhere the fuel goes. The hot intake valve is the first time the fuel sees heat that it can't beat. In the winter it is easiest to observe. Feel the temp in the notch between the injector coil body and the engine which is the very last part the fuel flows through before dropping into the intake. The coil body will be hot but the fuel part will be stone cold which means the fuel leading up to it is just as cold.

On my GM 3.8L rail the upper o-ring is black (n-buna) and the lower o-ring is bi-color brown/black (viton/n-buna). The black (n-buna) part faces the little bit of cold fuel back spray and vapor and the brown (Viton) part holds the seal in the hot intake bore. Neither color can last under the conditions the other sees. GM's top ring is all black which sees continuous liquid fuel but little heat. After 240,000 miles these bi-color o-rings functioned like new. I have rebuilt rails and the rebuilder knowing nothing about o-ring chemistry put all black o-rings on. Within 70,000 miles the bottom rings split during removal and were flattened to where they wouldn't hold a seal. The upper o-rings are like new. I bought 12 brown o-rings (Viton) from Advance for two rails and put those on the bottom and left the black rings on the top. Now I'm almost as good as GM who has spent quite a bit of time optimizing the o-ring materials for the conditions. The pushlock supply and return o-rings are light green (not HNBR) or tan, probably Viton. Changing the conditions without also changing the materials might lead to early failure. Has OP checked into this before installing fuel heat? I think not. Then he goes and recommends it to everyone else who also haven't.

My only weakness to heat is the injector top o-rings which can be replaced with Viton.

GM now supplies a blue o-ring as a replacement for the black and brown/black o-rings over on RockAuto. Lesser but sufficient companies supply brown on bottom and black on top o-rings with instructions. The worst companies supply all one color hoping you won't have the car long enough to notice the leak.

Do use fuel heat if it works. Don't use it if it causes leaks when you're not watching.
severach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2008, 10:59 PM   #86
Registered Member
 
ShadowWorks's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 172
Country: United States
Quote:
Originally Posted by R.I.D.E. View Post
I deadlifted 6 times my body weight when I was 24 years old (900 pounds), 33 years ago.
Thats is the most impressive lift

I'm 32 and can just lift 3 times my body weight! how thick was your back or do you just have the shortest torso in the world
__________________
Water is fuel, I just don't know how to make it work yet.
ShadowWorks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2008, 02:59 AM   #87
Registered Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 46
Country: United States
yea i was thinking the same thing....but i wont say impossible..my brother at 270 could dead lift 650lbs and thats a big strong mofo!
chope is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2008, 03:02 AM   #88
Registered Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 46
Country: United States
omg! dude or old man 103 more lbs you could have been the world record holder for deadlift
chope is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2008, 08:13 AM   #89
Registered Member
 
ShadowWorks's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 172
Country: United States
I have a friend called Mark Felix, he is an amazing guy and he can dead lifted 400Kg, he's in the World Strong man competitions and they all know he has one of the strongest back in the world, he is a brilliant guy, very nice attitude an humble.
__________________
Water is fuel, I just don't know how to make it work yet.
ShadowWorks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2008, 08:58 AM   #90
Registered Member
 
vxdude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 93
Country: United States
Send a message via Yahoo to vxdude
I cant wait to see some pics of chope's mod
__________________

vxdude is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Incorrect Milage Calcuatlion PatM Fuelly Web Support and Community News 4 07-17-2009 08:21 PM
Missing Fuelup jmonty Fuelly Web Support and Community News 3 05-27-2009 05:10 AM
total fuel cost for fill-up instead of price per gallon EmptyH Fuelly Web Support and Community News 1 08-26-2008 12:14 PM
Why did it take me so long to find this place? Baranfin Introduce Yourself - New member Welcome 6 05-31-2008 05:17 PM
hi new member here and ive got some sick ideas! csrmel Introduce Yourself - New member Welcome 6 10-18-2007 02:23 PM

» Fuelly Android Apps
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.