Honda VX engine not performing, why??? - Fuelly Forums

Click here to see important news regarding the aCar App

Go Back   Fuelly Forums > Fuel Talk > General Fuel Topics
Today's Posts Search Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 09-17-2010, 01:35 AM   #1
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 28
Country: United States
Honda VX engine not performing, why???

I've just done an engine swap in my '95 Civic and put in a VX (VTEC-E) engine and I'm missing something because I'm not getting any better gas mileage than my 450,000kms, old, stock, 16V, single overhead cam that I swapped out???
I've put in new spark plugs, distributor cap, air filter, oil change. What am I missing?
__________________

briogio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2010, 06:17 AM   #2
Registered Member
 
GasSavers_Erik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,027
Country: United States
Re: Honda VX engine not performing, why???

Are you using the FED VX ECU? It will put the engine into lean burn under certain conditions. The CAL VX ECU does not have lean burn capabilities.
__________________

GasSavers_Erik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2010, 11:48 AM   #3
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 28
Country: United States
Re: Honda VX engine not performing, why???

Honestly I'm not sure, I bought it at TorontoJDM and the engine is from Japan, it's single stage that kicks in at 5,000rpm, I think it's a D15B1, it says VTEC-E on the head.
briogio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2010, 12:59 PM   #4
Registered Member
 
imzjustplayin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 720
Country: United States
Re: Honda VX engine not performing, why???

do you have the transmission that came with the car or do you have the VX transmission? The 2001-2005 Civics with Vtec (EX) only see a marginal improvement (2mpg avg increase) over the older vtec (96-00 EX) and no increase over the non vtec (DX/LX). Yes I am aware the EX has a slightly closer transmission than the DX/LX but when you compare the EX from '96 and the EX from '02 (best years), there you can see the mileage improvement. I would suppose if you coupled the newer vtec version with a DX/LX transmission, you'd see a marginal improvement in fuel economy but no VX territory. The VTEC in the 2001-2005 Civic EX is very similar to the VTEC in the 92-'95 VX and '96-'00 HX (12 valves low, 16 valves high). The primary reason to go with the vtec in the VX is because it adds low end torque which goes nicely with the "tall" CX/VX transmission and therefore adds fuel economy.
imzjustplayin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2010, 04:42 PM   #5
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 28
Country: United States
Re: Honda VX engine not performing, why???

I have the stock '95 CX 5 speed transmission, it turns at 2,500 rpm at 55-60 miles an hour which I mostly travel at on my commute.
briogio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2010, 08:39 PM   #6
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 28
Country: United States
Re: Honda VX engine not performing, why???

I've found that I should have a 5 wire oxygen sensor and I have a 4 wire. Also they put a non-stock 4 into 2 exhaust manifold. It sounds like it makes a big difference so I'm going to try and find the stock manifold and 5 wire O2 sensor.
briogio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2010, 08:48 PM   #7
Registered Member
 
imzjustplayin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 720
Country: United States
Re: Honda VX engine not performing, why???

Quote:
Originally Posted by briogio View Post
I have the stock '95 CX 5 speed transmission, it turns at 2,500 rpm at 55-60 miles an hour which I mostly travel at on my commute.
lulz... A CX transmission does NOT turn at 2500 rpm at 55-60mph.. THATS THE DX/LX/(1996-2000 CX)TRANSMISSION! If you really had a '92-'95 CX/VX transmission, you'd be going around 74mph at 2500rpm vs the current 59mph..

http://www.fatboyraceworks.com/gears...raph&Compare=1
imzjustplayin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2010, 08:54 PM   #8
Registered Member
 
imzjustplayin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 720
Country: United States
Re: Honda VX engine not performing, why???

Quote:
Originally Posted by briogio View Post
I've found that I should have a 5 wire oxygen sensor and I have a 4 wire. Also they put a non-stock 4 into 2 exhaust manifold. It sounds like it makes a big difference so I'm going to try and find the stock manifold and 5 wire O2 sensor.
you don't need a 5 wire for a D15B1.. You need to reconfirm again what exactly you have. I can't believe you knew enough to install an engine but not enough to actually know what the hell you installed.
imzjustplayin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2010, 11:21 AM   #9
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 28
Country: United States
Re: Honda VX engine not performing, why???

Ok I have Montegi MR7 16" wheels with 205/45 tires. About knowing "what the hell" I installed, it says VTEC-E on the valve cover and yes I'm trusting it is, how can I tell if if really is VTEC-E?
briogio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2010, 01:28 PM   #10
Registered Member
 
1993CivicVX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,069
Country: United States
Send a message via AIM to 1993CivicVX
Re: Honda VX engine not performing, why???

Prolly is a VTEC-E but the VTEC-E is not a D15B1, it's a D15Z1.

Correct wheel size and transmission should help you with the mpg numbers, along with the correct expensive 5 wire o2 sensor. No surprised you are not getting better numbers with the current setup you have (high revving tranny and big wheels). If you can, get yourself a set of the original VX wheels on craigslist and put Vredestein Quatrac 2 tires on them 165/70/13. http://www.vredestein.com/

VX wheels
__________________

__________________
three stripes the charm!

Car mods are overrated. Just gotta adjust that nut behind the wheel for best mpg.



Forget about World Peace...Visualize using your turn signal.
1993CivicVX is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Take Care of Your Equipment shatto General Discussion (Off-Topic) 3 08-05-2009 07:50 AM
1-800-Radiator shatto General Maintenance and Repair 2 04-24-2009 03:59 PM
Stealth / Performance Exhaust System Hybrid JohnNeiferd General Fuel Topics 9 07-27-2008 03:40 PM
Getting Rid of Pop Up Headlamps! justpassntime Aerodynamics 20 07-15-2008 12:19 PM

» Fuelly Android Apps
No Threads to Display.
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:41 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.