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10-22-2006, 03:19 PM
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HAI ver. 1.02
I worked on improving the HAI today. I have no testing yet. I'll get some running temp results later today. Here are the pics. The material is aluminum vinyl siding coil. Its coated with a mylar armor coat on the finished side. Hope it doesn't go up in flames.
I had 3 months running the old setup and hope this improves my winter mileage. I seriously doubt I could run this in temps above 70 but will see.
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10-22-2006, 03:21 PM
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old setup
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10-22-2006, 05:22 PM
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I like it! Way to squeeze into the area by the ac.
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10-22-2006, 05:34 PM
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Nice Setup
I predict you'll exceed your goal of 70F for your setup. With the trapped heat in the box, I can see 120+ possible.
edit: after re-reading, I see you mean running it in ambient temps of 70F.
Still, nice setup!
RH77
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10-22-2006, 06:22 PM
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Results
60mph steady cruise 50 degrees ambient. 130-135 degrees
EOC'ing 4 miles last four miles of 15 mile trip 40mph max 39 degrees ambient 110 degrees
All results are taken with a car stopped engine on.
Boy do I need an SG
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10-22-2006, 07:29 PM
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I think Ill rig something up for this winter; its not even halloween and its 35 degrees and has rained for like 18 out of the last 20 days Wisconsi for the lose. I thought the HAI was "busted" according to the stickied thread?
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10-22-2006, 07:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BEN_EJ8
I think Ill rig something up for this winter; its not even halloween and its 35 degrees and has rained for like 18 out of the last 20 days Wisconsi for the lose. I thought the HAI was "busted" according to the stickied thread?
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It might be I don't know. I think it works. I have no ABA testing and no scangauge. It seems to work well for saturns. I guess engine management is pretty basic on the saturn.
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10-22-2006, 08:08 PM
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My car is an auto. I know my car is more likely to go into final gear at low rpms with hot air. The car seems to stay in lower gears longer with colder air.
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2008 EPA adjusted:
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10-23-2006, 10:32 PM
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I'd be worried about that vinyl :O. I've seen my exhaust manifold glow red hot before. I like your idea though, one of hte big 3 used this setup way back when on a "highway" car or something like that, they got extremely hot intake air, i'm not sure exactly why they wanted it, but they got it. I was thinking something like this for a heater on my car, suck air from around the exhaust manifolds, instant 1,000 heater, thats' gottta work better then 200 degree water. Sure if i get a leak I'd quickly die from carbon monoxide poisoning, but hey, thats' a chance i'm willing to take for a nice warm car haha.
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10-24-2006, 12:15 AM
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red91sit -
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Originally Posted by red91sit
I'd be worried about that vinyl :O. I've seen my exhaust manifold glow red hot before. I like your idea though, one of hte big 3 used this setup way back when on a "highway" car or something like that, they got extremely hot intake air, i'm not sure exactly why they wanted it, but they got it. I was thinking something like this for a heater on my car, suck air from around the exhaust manifolds, instant 1,000 heater, thats' gottta work better then 200 degree water. Sure if i get a leak I'd quickly die from carbon monoxide poisoning, but hey, thats' a chance i'm willing to take for a nice warm car haha.
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Maybe this is what you mean. I read the following on CheapyBob's thread on the saturnfans website (lovemysan posts there too) :
http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71674
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Originally Posted by eljefino
(on saturnfans.com website)
Everything old is new again.
I have the same setup on my 91 dodge dakota-- stock!
It sucks air from around the exhaust manifold when the intake air is cold. A little vacuum controlled door switches to cold air.
A visit to the junkyard will surely find an intake tube the approximate diameter of the saturn's.
I don't see why you can't get a vacuum solenoid that you can rig to a switch inside the car. Then you could set the cruise control on a flat level surface, flip the switch, and watch the scangauge.
This will dispell potential criticism of your technique ("oh, you must have warmed it up/changed brands of gas".... etc)
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