FE Team Challenge - discussion

[rh77]

Originally Posted by zpiloto

I don't have any problems with it because he has not filled yet so there is nothing to report. We do need to address this just for future reference. I think that in the future if there has been fills for the cycle we just treat it like a new teammate coming onboard as discussed earlier in the Version 2.0 thread.

So James don't fill

From the rules (which are being proofed) a member cannot change vehicles during a cycle.

Another good example of how the rules can be subject to change...
(which is how it was created -- cannot predict all possible future events).

EDIT: Moved from Stats Thread for discussion

So, the complexity that I can foresee is establishing a baseline on a newly purchased vehicle -- since the competition is based on an improvement and a 90-Day Average. The first tank would essentially have to be the "Baseline". Learning a new vehicle could see a dramatic improvement or be a tough learning curve.

Since no fills have occurred and we are pretty early in the Cycle, adding the vehicle is similar to adding a member. I see no problem with such an addition, but would set a precident for future, similar situations.

Any concerns or suggestions?

The Commish

[MetroMPG]

Originally Posted by rh77

The first tank would essentially have to be the "Baseline".

That's what I was thinking, yes.

Learning a new vehicle could see a dramatic improvement or be a tough learning curve.

Here's hoping for the first option. James is getting a giant-killer of a machine, but we've also seen that the VX can be troublesome if it's not in peak tune. Fingers crossed.

Anyone have a problem with this? Speak up if you do! Also, if you do have an objection, consider that Team Slow Burn will be short a member for this session without James. Not sure what that would mean - disqualification of the whole team? Sacking of the team captain??

[zpiloto]

Originally Posted by MetroMPG

That's what I was thinking, yes.

Here's hoping for the first option. James is getting a giant-killer of a machine, but we've also seen that the VX can be troublesome if it's not in peak tune. Fingers crossed.

Anyone have a problem with this? Speak up if you do! Also, if you do have an objection, consider that Team Slow Burn will be short a member for this session without James. Not sure what that would mean - disqualification of the whole team? Sacking of the team captain??

I agree getting a new car is a double edge sword. I know that from having 2 in the last 6 months. And even if some one kill the baseline on the next fill the 90 day average will catch up and reflect that as each fill goes in the tank.

As far as new drivers. There a chance that anyone of us could be put out of commission due to thief, accident, or mechanical and finical difficulties. I think that since a cycle is 42 days you have time to find someone. Back tracking the 90 day cycle is no big deal. Working with PM can be time consuming if someone is off line for a couple of days. Lets go with 21 days(Half a cycle) to find a replacement or the end of a cycle which ever is shorter.

[zpiloto]

Originally Posted by rh77

From the rules (which are being proofed) a member cannot change vehicles during a cycle.

Another good example of how the rules can be subject to change...
(which is how it was created -- cannot predict all possible future events).

EDIT: Moved from Stats Thread for discussion

So, the complexity that I can foresee is establishing a baseline on a newly purchased vehicle -- since the competition is based on an improvement and a 90-Day Average. The first tank would essentially have to be the "Baseline". Learning a new vehicle could see a dramatic improvement or be a tough learning curve.

Since no fills have occurred and we are pretty early in the Cycle, adding the vehicle is similar to adding a member. I see no problem with such an addition, but would set a precident for future, similar situations.

Any concerns or suggestions?

The Commish

That's not something I came up with did you add that?

I think with new cars they should fill as quickly as possible to establish a base line. For example fill at 4 gallons instead of running the tank to empty. It would also take care of the min fill requirement for that driver.

[GasSavers_James]

Ok, I'll fill up right when I get the car and then again within a couple of days to get a baseline.

[zpiloto]

Originally Posted by James

Ok, I'll fill up right when I get the car and then again within a couple of days to get a baseline.

Well you need to burn 4-5 gallons to get it some what right. If you're picking the car up and driving it home drive it home then that will probably work. Just figure around 200-250 miles or so that would give you at least 4 gallons at 50 MPG.

[rh77]

Originally Posted by zpiloto

That's not something I came up with did you add that?

If you or Metro did not, then probably, yes. Is this not a reasonable rule that basically fits into the other rules? One driver and one car in one cycle. I think this came up at some point.

RH77