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View Poll Results: Keep the current average, or implement a cumulative calcuation
Keep the Current Calcs: MPG for each tank is averaged in the total 0 0%
New: Cumulative Miles per Cumulative Gallons = Final Result 12 100.00%
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:02 PM   #1
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Competition Averages

Background: Brucepick brought-up an excellent point:

The baseline and final averages are taken by averaging the MPG value in the GasLog. In this form, a cumulative value of total miles/kilometers, vs. total gallons is not taken.

A cumulative average seems to be more fair and accurate.

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1) Keep the Current System
2) Implement the total/cumulative average for the Cycle

This is a public vote. Please provide reasoning for your input. Thanks all!

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Cumulative. Maybe subdivide per quarter so as to see trends by season ?
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:39 PM   #3
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I know I'm not playing, but if I understand correctly, the current situation: One tank may have only 3 gallons of "extra good behavior" then that tank would have the same weight as a 15 gallon tank of low mpg?
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:22 PM   #4
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I know I'm not playing, but if I understand correctly, the current situation: One tank may have only 3 gallons of "extra good behavior" then that tank would have the same weight as a 15 gallon tank of low mpg?
Yup...
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Old 07-27-2007, 02:28 AM   #5
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rh77, Rick,

Guess I'm not understanding this very well. How does the proposed new rule differ from the currently posted Version 2.0 rule quoted below??

Excerpt from current Version 2.0 rules:

Calculations:
6. The ?Final Percentage over EPA? is figured by the cumulative, Gaslog-sourced MPG values vs. the vehicle?s EPA FE-Combined (?Cycle-End Cumulative Percentage Over EPA?)

7. A member?s final calculation is the difference between the Baseline and Cycle-End Cumulative? or ?Improvement? (negative numbers reflect a decrease in efficiency).
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:25 AM   #6
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rh77, Rick,
Guess I'm not understanding this very well. How does the proposed new rule differ from the currently posted Version 2.0 rule quoted below??

Excerpt from current Version 2.0 rules:

Calculations:
6. The ?Final Percentage over EPA? is figured by the cumulative, Gaslog-sourced MPG values vs. the vehicle?s EPA FE-Combined (?Cycle-End Cumulative Percentage Over EPA?) ...
If I may be so bold as to answer this one...

Actually I don't think the proposed method does vary from #6 above (my interpretation of it anyway). I think the method of averaging all the mpg values from the gaslog doesn't really reflect #6 as it weights the miles in a short tank much more heavily than those in a long tank.

I think it's a matter of us agreeing on what was the intention of the rule, and stating it clearly so there won't be a question on it.

My two cents.
My thanks to Rick and to all of us for following this.
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man just as i expected, nobody voted for the average of mpgs. good.

i thought that they were the cumulative and the cumulative
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I don't think a rules change in mid "season" is right. with the mileage that some get here they would only get 1 fill and it would get posted near end of cycle.
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I don't think a rules change in mid "season" is right. with the mileage that some get here they would only get 1 fill and it would get posted near end of cycle.
For the season, single-fills wouldn't be affected. It's when multiple tanks are used:

Example:

Tank 1: 400 mi / 15 gal = 26.67 MPG
Tank 2: 350 mi / 13 gal = 26.92 MPG
Tank 3: 100 mi / 3 gal = 33.33 MPG

The current method takes the MPG averages: (26.67 + 26.92 + 33.33) / 3 = 28.97 final MPG

Proposed "cumulative" method: 850 miles / 31 gal = 27.41 MPG

The newer method weights each "gallon" equally as Bruce just mentioned.

Baselines would be calculated similarly...

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i dont know about you, but i commute all year round... there is no mpg season.

if anything the winter is the mpg season because i cant race and my wife(teacher) is commuting daily again.
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