Cheap DIY H2 generator

[diamondlarry]

Here is a very interesting link for a cheap DIY H2 generator. Maybe this is something compaq888 could use. I have some more links to look over and I'll post them in a little while. Enjoy.
http://waterpoweredcar.com/hydrobooster2.html

[diamondlarry]

I looked over the other links I had and they don't appear to be directly related to the above post. I'll go ahead and post them anyway in case someone can use the info. Also, Matt, I wasn't thinking too much when I posted this in a new thread. Feel free to move this into the hydrogen generator thread if it seems like that would be a better place for it.

http://www.geocities.com/captpjk/part13.pdf

http://waterpoweredcar.com/hydrobooster2.html

[Compaq888]

Originally Posted by diamondlarry

Here is a very interesting link for a cheap DIY H2 generator. Maybe this is something compaq888 could use. I have some more links to look over and I'll post them in a little while. Enjoy.
http://waterpoweredcar.com/hydrobooster2.html

I have everything I need. Everything to build it. I just need the amp results. I'm not going to put something in my car that I don't know how many amps it draws. The altima alternator is crap as is, I don't need to kill it faster. I think I'll buy a new car before I get the amp results. My goal is to buy a 2007 or 2008 model car, no joke.

[diamondlarry]

I have everything I need. Everything to build it. I just need the amp results. I'm not going to put something in my car that I don't know how many amps it draws. The altima alternator is crap as is, I don't need to kill it faster. I think I'll buy a new car before I get the amp results. My goal is to buy a 2007 or 2008 model car, no joke.

Fran Giroux at hydrogen-boost.com told me once that you could hook a batterycharger up to the unit before you put it into the car to see how many amps it's pulling. Or you could wire it up to a car battery and put an amp meter in series with it to test before you are comitted by mounting it in the car.

[diamondlarry]

Here's another picture that shows a little about how to go about constructing the H2 generator.
http://hydropowercar.com/content.php?content.6

[GasSavers_JustMe]

The hydro boost device you can build yourself

http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/hydroboost.htm

[thecrxproject]

Good Idea.. but won't work until you can produce the hydrogen with less electrical energy than it creates when combusted. Electrolysis is becoming more efficient everyday but it is not yet at the level where it would succesfully break the bonds of hydrogen and oxygen with less energy than the seperated gasses themselves or together. If you do a little research before wasting your money you may thank me later.

[cfg83]

thecrxproject -

Originally Posted by thecrxproject

Good Idea.. but won't work until you can produce the hydrogen with less electrical energy than it creates when combusted. Electrolysis is becoming more efficient everyday but it is not yet at the level where it would succesfully break the bonds of hydrogen and oxygen with less energy than the seperated gasses themselves or together. If you do a little research before wasting your money you may thank me later.

I've already wasted the money ! The "energy in energy out argument" does make sense at first. However, the goal is not to create more energy. The goal is to modify the flame spread in the cylinder in order to make it more efficient, (i.e. a special kind of octane booster?). However, from what I am gleaning, the H2 generator doesn't help unless you are in a "lean burn" state. It works best with high compression diesels because they are already lean-burn engines. There are already "bolt-on" products on the market for diesel trucks in the trucking industry. They can use standard-issue electrolysis or a different mechanism that uses a portion of the diesel fuel to produce the hydrogen. Here is the one I have been tracking :

Hydrogen-Enhanced Combustion Engine Could Improve Gasoline Fuel Economy by 20% to 30% - 5 November 2005
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005...enenhance.html

Adding hydrogen gas to the homogeneous fuel charge improves the ignitability of the mixture, and increases flame speed and combustion stability. In theory, the combination of a lean-burn engine (diesel - my note) with the plasma reformer could support an ultra-lean and turbocharged engine that would reduce NOx emissions to the point of not requiring aftertreatment in the exhaust stream.

But, they have recently sold their interest, which may be a bad sign for me :

ArvinMeritor to Sell its Emissions Technologies Group - 2 February 2007
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007...eritor_to.html

ArvinMeritor, Inc. has signed a definitive agreement to sell its Emissions Technologies business group to One Equity Partners (OEP), an equity investment firm based in New York for cash and other consideration totaling approximately $310 million. The transaction is expected to be completed in the third quarter of fiscal year 2007.

CarloSW2