'87 Crx Hf....

[Brian D.]

I almost forgot...I found an '87 CRX HF for parts also. I don't suppose this transmission would fit my later model CRX with the D15B5 would it?

**BTW, anyone know what these '87 HF wheels weigh? They feel very light with the tires on them. Just wondering.

[Matt Timion]

the 84-87 CRXs are essentially completely different cars than the later ones. There is really nothing in common other than the make and model.

I imagine that the tires/wheels are lighter. The 88-91 CRX HF had lightened "steel" rims. They looked the same, but weighed much less.

[SVOboy]

What condition is the car in, I wonder?

[MakDiesel]

1st Gen CRX HF's are light...like 1713 lbs. light off the top of my head...My '85 Si is 1883 lbs. from the factory, so you've got me by an average driver's weight...until you factor in the diet of my car, then we are about the same, give or take. With proper tuning, a 1st gen CRX HF can pull high 50's-mid 60's on mods and careful driving alone. Good luck! Mak

[GasSavers_Ryland]

what all is wrong with the CRX that it's being sold for parts?
the brake drums might still be aluminum as long as they haven't been replaced, the steel wheels are lighter, 12-13 pounds is my guess, they are 4.5" wide insted of 5" and made of thiner steel, the air intake is aluminum insted of steel, they don't have sway bars, the have a lighter weight steering wheel, I think it's the same that used on the SI tho.

[MakDiesel]

Originally Posted by Ryland

what all is wrong with the CRX that it's being sold for parts?
the brake drums might still be aluminum as long as they haven't been replaced, the steel wheels are lighter, 12-13 pounds is my guess, they are 4.5" wide insted of 5" and made of thiner steel, the air intake is aluminum insted of steel, they don't have sway bars, the have a lighter weight steering wheel, I think it's the same that used on the SI tho.

- My '85 Si intake manifold is aluminum, the intake tube is plastic.

I just stripped an '87 HF recently so there's plenty of lighter parts (relative to DX/Si) such as:

- aluminum brake drums
- rear beam axle
- pass. side mirror delete plate (the actual mirrors are 5lbs/ea!)
- clock delete
- radio delete
- sunroof delete switch
- axles maybe?
- solid front rotors (smaller diameter)
- hubs, possibly knuckles
- 8-valve head must be lighter than 12-valve if both aluminum
- plastic valve cover
- smaller/absent sway bars
- smaller gas tank
- thinner support bars under bumpers
- half-radiator vs. full length one
- no sunroof or rear wiper to speak of
- carb setup vs. EFI

That's all I can think of off the top of my head...there's always more. If you are really interested about '84-87 Civic/CRX's go to www.redpepperracing.com. It is THE site for those cars/specs. Mak

[GasSavers_Ryland]

the early crx-hf still had the round style air cleaner, and it was an aluminum houseing, made out of light gauge thin aluminum stamped sheat, under the hood it looked like a 12" silver disk over the top of the air cleaner/carb, the dx has a black steel disk/cover over those parts, unlike the SI and what I assume would be the aluminum intake manifold, plastic intake, and plastic air cleaner houseing.

[MakDiesel]

10-4, thanks for clearing that up. Mak

[Matt Timion]

Does anyone know if a d15z1 can fit into a 1st gen crx?

ETA: Found a writeup for a d16z6 into a first gen CRX

http://www.redpepperracing.com/forum...20487&hl=d16z6

Should be the same procedure, although I'm not sure I'd want an integra transmission for a gas mileage vehicle.

[MakDiesel]

I've seen B and even K-series in a 1st Gen so it's definitely possible, although not the best choice. You would need custom mounts to start (motor and tranny), wire from pre-OBD to OBD-1, and possibly find different hubs, axles, etc. Also, the engine bay itself is tight even w/ my stock EW3 sittin' in it and with my latest Z1 alternator fitment issues in my 2nd Gen, I doubt you could shoehorn it in there w/o some strategic denting. All in all, a '88+ is a better start w/ less hassle, and the weight difference is minimal if you stick to the lightest of each year. I'm not trying to discourage anyone, but know the road ahead is bumpier than expected. If it ever happens, I want a write-up! Mak