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Old 06-04-2006, 04:35 PM   #21
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OK, time for a vocabulary lesson.
FAS
Bleeding
P&G
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Old 06-04-2006, 05:12 PM   #22
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OK, time for a vocabulary lesson.
FAS
Bleeding
P&G
FAS > Forced Auto Stop. basicly turning the engine off. Be it on a coast or at a stop light. MPG is always better the less the engine runs.

Bleeding > Its kinda half a P&G if you will. Either done on level ground or on a slight decline. It involves extreme throttle control. Movent of the throttle that you mite not even beable to feel. I only use it on very slight down hill grades. basicly as you enter this slight down hill grade you ever so slightly take pressure off the throttle. Your goal is to maintain speed. heck sometimes speed will go up when you nail it right. If you have a ScanGauge or supermid or what ever its called like others on this site have. You will see you instant mpg start climbing very nice. Used when a FAS wont work.

P&G > Pulsa and Gluide. Its roots go way way back in FE driving. But its claim to fame has been in hybrids. Its also alot of work IMHO. But in certin cars can produce steller results. Lets say your on a stretch of road thats flat as a board. Our target speed is 60 mph. We get to 60 mph and then we begin a bleed say down to 55 mph. We then start speeding up to our 60 mph target. But we do it very very slow. In some hybrids you pick up some very lite assist from the electric motor and dont really use much of the pack. And then we start bleeding again. This is a very repetative driving style and not for the faint at heart. It takes alot of conctration and throttle control. It has alot of varibles that can be played with for diff. cars and over all driving styles. Used alot on hwy's and in city driving. The challenge for hybrid drivers is to know when to loose a P&G cycle or two to get the pack recharged.
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:14 PM   #23
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Thank You! Very detailed! I like! We need to compile a complete and detailed list of terms and techniques as a sticky!
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vocab.

a vocabulary sticky would be great! matt what can you do?
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Old 06-05-2006, 06:18 AM   #25
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for rims try http://www.car-parts.com cheap parts, and often they are local.
Thanks I did. They list tons of them but when you call they dont have them anymore.
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Old 06-06-2006, 09:10 AM   #26
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Not the HF rims Jack, go for the HX with the Insight rubber. It is discussed here:

http://www.gassavers.org/showthread....hlight=potenza
How much do the HX rims run?
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How much do the HX rims run?
I purchased a pair for $260 shipped on ebay a while ago. I then sold them for $300 plus shipping a few months later.

It all depends, but I'd say somewhere between $200 and $300 for the pair is normal for HX rims.
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I purchased a pair for $260 shipped on ebay a while ago. I then sold them for $300 plus shipping a few months later.

It all depends, but I'd say somewhere between $200 and $300 for the pair is normal for HX rims.
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I purchased a pair for $260 shipped on ebay a while ago. I then sold them for $300 plus shipping a few months later.

It all depends, but I'd say somewhere between $200 and $300 for the pair is normal for HX rims.
it depends on the quality of paint, curbage, and tires. i picked mine up for 250 with tires that were had 10k miles left, but the bronze paint was immaculant and there was no curbage.
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