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03-21-2018, 05:20 AM
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Hello from Newfoundland, CA
Greetings, just picked up a used lexus ct200h after driving pickup trucks for 10+years. cant wait to track all the money i am saving, and help others find real world gas saving statistics.
cheers,
adam
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03-21-2018, 08:08 AM
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Welcome. I hope you enjoy your Lexus. Lovely car. I am sure you will find vast fuel savings after driving pick up trucks. I know of at least one person who updated from a non hybrid to a hybrid version of the same model and, though their mpg improved, were disappointed that the improvement was not all that great. Perhaps it takes a spell to learn how to get the best out of a hybrid. Keep us informed as to how you get along.
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03-21-2018, 10:46 AM
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Hi welcome, yea those hybrids are never as good on fuel as you expect, but compared to a pick up, it's probably a huge improvement for you!
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03-22-2018, 08:30 AM
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Most hybrids have great fuel economy. The NEDC is just a horrible test for real world results no matter the car. The reported average here for a model is usually pretty close to the EPA combined rating.
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03-22-2018, 10:34 AM
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I looked at them, they only average 45-50 UK MPG which I consider quite low for a hybrid, most similar sized diesels will match or beat that with ease.
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03-22-2018, 01:11 PM
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But not without polluting more than the hybrid.
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03-22-2018, 03:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trollbait
But not without polluting more than the hybrid.
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Depends on car age, milage, engine temperature, outside temperature, service history etc etc
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03-23-2018, 07:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Draigflag
Depends on car age, milage, engine temperature, outside temperature, service history etc etc
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Lab and real world tests beg to differ with that statement. The diesel should be better on particles because of the DPF, and it might have an advantage on CO, but that is about it.
The Prius emits a fraction of the pollutant limits required for the cleanest EPA bin. Some diesels might qualify for that bin, but no manufacturer is willing provide a warranty for over concerns for emissions as the car ages.
CO2 emissions is purely a factor of efficiency. A diesel could out perform a hybrid on the highway, but most miles are driven under city conditions. Then most people don't want smog in their city.
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03-23-2018, 10:25 AM
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True, although don't forget older higher mileage petrol engined vehicles (which there are alot of in the US) are responsible for a huge amount of nitrogen oxides too. Did you read the BBC experiment? An old Golf petrol V's a fairly old VW engined Skoda diesel, the Golf's nitrogen oxide emissions were 300% higher than the diesel.
How toxic is your car exhaust? - BBC News
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03-23-2018, 08:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jazie
Greetings, just picked up a used lexus ct200h after driving pickup trucks for 10+years. cant wait to track all the money i am saving, and help others find real world gas saving statistics.
cheers,
adam
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Welcome. CT200h's are nice. I see one every once in a while on the highway. You'll definitely save quite a lot on fuel. It's a good pick.
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