Hybrid tax

[Willber]

The law reads a hybrid equipped with an engine able to produce electricity to move the vehicle

[Draigflag]

Sounds like an absolute bargain considering the fuel cost savings and the fact that fuel is cheaper than water over there anyway. Lighten up.

[LDB]

Originally Posted by LDB

Which vehicle do you have that's getting the $100 surcharge? I can see how they came up with the idea but have no idea how the $100 compares to what John Doe pays in fuel taxes through the pump. It may be a bargain or it may be a ripoff.

Again, what vehicle(s) are we talking about?

[JockoT]

In the UK EVs pay nothing.

[Draigflag]

Originally Posted by JockoT

In the UK EVs pay nothing.

Most pay nothing, but many are subject to the luxury car tax, like every single tesla, future models like the polestar, rivian etc even a top of the range kona can end up paying if the list price goes above the £40,000 threshold.

[JockoT]

Yes, but the Luxury Car Tax is based on emissions and an EV pays £320 for the first five years. Not bad when you consider I pay £125 for my 14 years old Jazz, every single year for as long as it survives.

[Willber]

I will be paying 137us per year plus .363 per gal tax. Gas driven vehicle pays only 37.50 per year a half ton p/u pays 56.00 per year.

[LDB]

What make and model of car???

[JockoT]

Originally Posted by Willber

I will be paying 137us per year plus .363 per gal tax. Gas driven vehicle pays only 37.50 per year a half ton p/u pays 56.00 per year.

In the UK we pay £2.63 tax per gallon.
That equates to £2.19/US gallon which at today's exchange rate is $2.82 per US gallon.

[trollbait]

Originally Posted by Willber

I will be paying 137us per year plus .363 per gal tax. Gas driven vehicle pays only 37.50 per year a half ton p/u pays 56.00 per year.

Assuming an average 25mpg and 13,000 miles a year for the typical car on the road, Ohio's fee isn't that bad for a 50mpg hybrid, like the new Insight. It sucks that legislatures are punishing people for choosing more efficiency cars instead actually addressing road funding issues, but some states are really gouging hybrids and plug ins with these fees, because they are a minority of the driving public.

Now, drive less miles, or have a less efficient hybrid, like a Ram pick up, and the Ohio fee starts gouging. That's the problem with these flat fees to recoup lost fuel taxes. With plug ins arriving, we should move to a per mile tax for all vehicles.

Originally Posted by Draigflag

Less than $2 a week? No one would complain about that surely?! Not when we pay something like $3.40 just in tax on a gallon of our fuel.

Yeah, our fuel taxes or low, but in addition, the federal, and likely many state, rates are a flat rate with no mechanism to account for inflation that haven't been raised in decades. Combined with steadily increasing fuel efficiency, the revenue from fuel taxes is far short of just regular road maintenance.

The solution should be to increase the fuel tax, or find a solution that has everyone paying a fair rate for road use. I'm partial to a mileage rate, but a tax on tires can also work. Of course politicians don't want to piss off voters with such solutions, but slapping the minority of cars on the road isn't cover the bills.