Proper RPM - Page 2 - Fuelly Forums

Click here to see important news regarding the aCar App

Go Back   Fuelly Forums > Fuel Talk > Hypermiling
Today's Posts Search Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 02-01-2010, 09:32 AM   #11
Registered Member
 
theholycow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 6,624
Country: United States
Send a message via ICQ to theholycow Send a message via AIM to theholycow Send a message via MSN to theholycow Send a message via Yahoo to theholycow
If I go a long time without driving, I'll probably spend that time sitting.
__________________

__________________
This sig may return, some day.
theholycow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2010, 01:05 PM   #12
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 427
Country: United States
yea but u dont live in the city where u can walk to get lunch
__________________

spotaneagle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2010, 10:04 PM   #13
Member
 
Geonerd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 47
Country: United States
Quote:
Originally Posted by theholycow View Post
Geonerd, can you elaborate on what data to collect from the ScanGauge? Just instant MPG, or something more?
I haven't thought it through completely, but something like this has been bouncing around in my head for a while...

Find several long, even hills (poor man's dyno) or various slope (increasing load). Drive up them in different gears/RPM, at different speeds, logging instantaneous fuel consumption and throttle position. I don't even have a SG (no place to plug it in!), but I think they can record T.P., as well as the raw fuel consumption rate, right?

If instant consumption values aren't available, MPG would work as well, so long as you factor out the speed, and wind up with gal/hr, ml/min, etc.

(Is there a SG version that can log several minutes' worth of data? That would kick butt!)

Weigh car. Survey hills. Calculate how much power is required to lift the car up the incline at any given speed. Perform coast-down tests (on level ground!) to determine the power required to overcome rolling resistance and aero at any given speed. Add the two to get (theoretically!) the HP/KW needed/produced to maintain speed up the given hill, at the given speed, and divide into recorded fuel consumption. If all has gone per plan, you now have a number representing power produced per fuel consumption rate. "To make X HP/KW, the engine requires N gallon/grams/liters per minute/hour."
Whatever the units, plotting the resultant values on a grid, located at the appropriate TP and RPM intersection, should make a crude BSFC map.

OK, what did I miss?! (I musta missed something! )

Moo
Geonerd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2010, 06:27 AM   #14
Registered Member
 
theholycow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 6,624
Country: United States
Send a message via ICQ to theholycow Send a message via AIM to theholycow Send a message via MSN to theholycow Send a message via Yahoo to theholycow
You probably did miss something, but it looks good to me.
__________________
This sig may return, some day.
theholycow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2010, 08:55 AM   #15
Member
 
Geonerd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 47
Country: United States
Quote:
Originally Posted by theholycow View Post
You probably did miss something, but it looks good to me.
LOL, thanks for the resounding vote of confidence!
Geonerd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2010, 11:38 AM   #16
Senior Member
 
FrugalFloyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 383
Country: United States
Location: Bay Area, CA
Scangauges don't offer any data logging capability, so that shoots the whole concept of using one to generate BSFC graphs.
FrugalFloyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2010, 04:38 PM   #17
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 35
Country: United States
Never the less. They still sound like they could give you a whole lot of good gas saving information
__________________


Going GTO once I finally get a job. Stayin pontiac all the way.
NotYourDay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2010, 04:59 PM   #18
Registered Member
 
theholycow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 6,624
Country: United States
Send a message via ICQ to theholycow Send a message via AIM to theholycow Send a message via MSN to theholycow Send a message via Yahoo to theholycow
You would have to log the data yourself. The ScanGauge is great at displaying the data, and can average/sum some of the data.
__________________

__________________
This sig may return, some day.
theholycow is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dissolve waste polystyrene (foam cups/plates) in biodiesel for more power theholycow Automotive News, Articles and Products 8 05-07-2009 05:32 AM
drivetrain resistance bagpipe goatee General Fuel Topics 9 09-14-2008 10:04 PM
DashDyno? Anyone heard of it yet? BumblingB General Fuel Topics 10 02-20-2008 09:09 AM
How does Automatic Tranny choose? GeekGuyAndy Transmissions and Running Gear 5 08-13-2007 05:05 AM
GasSavers.org Stickers Matt Timion Fuelly Web Support and Community News 7 10-12-2006 04:48 PM

» Fuelly Android Apps
No Threads to Display.
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:14 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.