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Old 04-27-2008, 04:53 PM   #1
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2008 Smart fortwo 400 mile review

Picked up the Smart yesterday and as of today I have 400 miles on it. Filled up once and got the EPA mileage of 40mpg. Pretty good considering I did not baby it and the engine is still tight. I've heard reports from other owners who have several thousand miles and they are getting mid 40's to mid 50's. If you have driven a Honda Insight, this car drives, rides & handles very similar.

Driving - It actually handles pretty good with an awesome turning radius. I doubt I'll take it auto-xing anytime soon but I have seen some people that have and they handle fine - better than some of the haters have portrayed them to handle. Passing 18 wheelers I didn't find as much of a hair raising experience as I've heard. It has a Electronic Stability Control that seems to work well, though it does have issues when you take the car off roading which I won't get into. The seats sit well too, a very comfortable ride. That being said, that is at 31psi. I just bumped the tires up to 39.5psi so we'll see how much of a hit I take on ride quality. The paddle shifters are fun fun fun!!! Just like a video game! When you're bored, just pop back over to automatic. The automatic takes some getting used to, it's actually a manual with an automatic clutch - feels really weird until you get used to it. The tranny takes some beating from reviewers because they don't drive it long enough.

Speed - I cruised on the interstate and had it up 90mph at one point just to see how she'll go. The rest of the time I hung at 70mph. In this little car you don't seem to get the same run up on your booty similar to what you get in other cars. It seems most people are amazed it is going that fast and you must be pegged out at the time - they just go around no problems.

Parking - What can I say, it's friggin awesome!!! Went to Wally World yesterday and a front parking spot had one of those electric buggies taking up half the space due to the cart retrieval people not doing their job. No one could park in that spot because that was there...no one except for me!

Workmanship - I must say I was scared to buy a car made in France. That being said, while growing up my father used to bring home Renault demos from the dealer he worked at all the time in the early 70's and owned quite a few too. The overall quality is great, let me rephrase that, AWESOME for an almost all plastic car. Body panel fit is nice. This morning I started pulling the carpet back to look at welds, NICE JOB, they are excellent plus the paint is even thick in the out of sight areas.

Safety - Great ratings, 4 stars on par or better than many other cars out there. 4 airbags total and a "safety cell" which is essentially a factory roll bar that goes all the way around the passengers. There have been a few wrecks out there so far and from what I've seen, the cars AND trucks that hit the Smarts received more damage than the Smarts themselves. They seem to bounce right out of the way. What if you get hit by an 18 wheeler? Is that before or after you get hit by that stray meteor?

The Good - I think the sky is the limit for mileage and the whole EPA mileage for these is a load of..well you know. The SPG's for this is off the hook. What? You don't know what SPG is? That's Smiles Per Gallon . A truly fun car to drive. If you are starved for attention than this is the car for you. You'll get more attention than Pamela Andersen walking topless through a church. This is not a car you want to pick your nose in. Most people seem to love it and it gets lots of questions - this car gets more attention than some of the other cars I drive (not listed in my garage - '30 Chevrolet Street Rod/'63 Corvette Split Window Coupe) Interior is a lot bigger than it lets on to be. I fit a full grocery cart's worth of food in it this evening.

The Bad - The standard radio just plain sucks. I was also told this would have Sirius satellite radio capability which it doesn't. Availability of parts/dealers. It's a task to even find tune up parts. I normally keep a stockpile of spare parts and not much can be found, when it can be found it isn't cheap. You have to a lot extra time when you go someplace to answer questions. Then there's the haters, I heard a woman talking to another woman about it one was positive while the other said, "I'd kill the whole rain forest driving my Navigator".

Conclusion - I LOVE it. Now I know I could of gotten a Yaris for just slightly less money, I looked at them, test drove them etc. I also drove the Accent, a much nicer car than the Yaris IMO but it's more $$ and of course it has the Hyundai quality everyone is so scared of (not an issue, I think they do good) I also could of bought 10 nice Geo Metros like the one I used to have. One thing I love about the Smart is it is easy to change the color. If you know how to paint, it is a cinch as you don't have to worry about jamming it out. 2.5 hours to pull the panels and then you paint them the color you want.

Our SECOND Smart will be in sometime around November through January 09 time frame - that is how happy I am with it! Remember, I am a car guy - I can understand if you aren't a "car person" you'd think it's impractical. OK, let me put on my flak vest - there, it's on...fire away.





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Old 04-27-2008, 05:00 PM   #2
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It says in your info on the Smart car that you bought it new yesterday (April 26/08). Must be a mistake?
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Old 04-27-2008, 05:10 PM   #3
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Nope, I already have 400 miles on it. Picked it up early yesterday morning and had a fairly long ride home - 300 miles. Took back roads just to keep the RPM's fluctuating and swing by a small town that is hometown to my wife's favorite author. By next Saturday I should have 1000 miles on it.
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Old 04-28-2008, 10:09 AM   #4
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Nope, I already have 400 miles on it. Picked it up early yesterday morning and had a fairly long ride home - 300 miles. Took back roads just to keep the RPM's fluctuating and swing by a small town that is hometown to my wife's favorite author. By next Saturday I should have 1000 miles on it.
In my opinion, you shouldn't just rate the car on one day of long driving. There are many problems that can possibly come up after driving a car for a while, as well as realizing little things you actually don't like about a car.
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In my opinion, you shouldn't just rate the car on one day of long driving. There are many problems that can possibly come up after driving a car for a while, as well as realizing little things you actually don't like about a car.
ha i disagree. i first days driving review is very valuable! its not like he didnt disclose that or anything. of course there are going to be other pros and cons that will arise later. nobody said this was the end all review on the smart.
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:44 AM   #6
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wasabi,

a few questions. first of all I kinda like the little things. how is the pickup? the hp rating is only 73hp and I know it weighs like 1800lbs so how does that equate into pickup. I had a 3cyl metro, is it kind of like that?

also what about storage. from the pictures I have seen it looks like you have about the room of an extended cab pickup minus the bed. a friend and I were seriously considering one until we found out about the "year" wait (and I know it is 8mos to a year).

how long did you wait for yours? did it come faster? I know I have a lot of questions but I have been waiting to talk to an actual owner of one of these things. like you said, some people like them and some don't the ones who do like them talk about how great they are and the ones who don't talk about how they suck. I think it is the same way with everything.

they are funny looking, but for a guy that has owned two metros (jelly beans) and currently owns a honda element (the big blue box) it would probably fit in well for me.

thanks for the write up.
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Glad you like it so much but . . . you sure are not breaking it in properly!
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Glad you like it so much but . . . you sure are not breaking it in properly!
When I bought my '81 Goldwing, I was told just to keep under about 65 or so for the first 100 miles...and don't overheat. He should be fine.

Scary story...Boattail Auburn Speedsters (circa 1935) came with a little placard on the dashboard certifying that that individual car had been driven in excess of 100mph. I wonder what procedure the owners manual gave for break-in?!?
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When I bought my '81 Goldwing, I was told just to keep under about 65 or so for the first 100 miles...and don't overheat. He should be fine.

Scary story...Boattail Auburn Speedsters (circa 1935) came with a little placard on the dashboard certifying that that individual car had been driven in excess of 100mph. I wonder what procedure the owners manual gave for break-in?!?
Breakin is a funny subject, everyone thinks they know how to do it, few do.

It's a two stage process, first you have to "knock the worst off" the bores and rings to get them into shape, without welding them together... then you have to glaze them for optimum longevity.

However, with new cars, you are seldom sure what exactly the manufacturer has done, how good the manufacturer tolerances were, and what materials are in the rings. The manufacturer might recommend a certain thing, but it will be something of the safest minimum thing that people will actually stick to rather than the best way to do it for that particular engine and ring combo. It's actually possible to glaze in a motor tight and end up with worse than typical power and economy over the life of the car.

However, too late to worry about it for that Smart, if it's glazed too early, nothing will fix it but a re-hone, this is unlikely in most modern cars however.
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I've had a 100+ cars, driven millions of miles, blown one motor in all that time and never damaged a NEW car due to improper breakin. The one motor I killed, a Mercedes that was on its last leg anyway - drove too far, too fast. Way too fast - Autobahn in Germany, several hours no letting up.

The Smart will be just fine.

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Breakin is a funny subject, everyone thinks they know how to do it, few do.

It's a two stage process, first you have to "knock the worst off" the bores and rings to get them into shape, without welding them together... then you have to glaze them for optimum longevity.

However, with new cars, you are seldom sure what exactly the manufacturer has done, how good the manufacturer tolerances were, and what materials are in the rings. The manufacturer might recommend a certain thing, but it will be something of the safest minimum thing that people will actually stick to rather than the best way to do it for that particular engine and ring combo. It's actually possible to glaze in a motor tight and end up with worse than typical power and economy over the life of the car.

However, too late to worry about it for that Smart, if it's glazed too early, nothing will fix it but a re-hone, this is unlikely in most modern cars however.
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