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[cuts_off_prius]

Originally Posted by frugalkoenig

, then denies that the Boston Marathon bombing was an act of Islamic terrorism,

Do you not read or something?

The START Global Terrorism Database spans from 1970 through 2012 (and will be updated from year-to-year), and – as of this writing – includes 104,000 terrorist incidents. As such, it is the most comprehensive open-source database open to the public.

* The Boston marathon bombing was not included in this analysis, as START has not yet updated its database to include 2013 terrorist attacks.

I'm not defending the credibility of the report. I'm just posting the reference to where a previous poster mentioned the report and someone asked where it came from.

[Draigflag]

I was going to reference the Global Terrorism database. Despite a recent spike, for the last (almost) 50 years, very few terrorist attacks have been Islamic/Jihadi based at all in Europe. You're something like 9 times more likely to be killed by a Police officer than a Terrorist in the US.

C'mon people, don't let these Politicians play you like fools, educate yourself with facts and data, don't join the hate parade!

[cuts_off_prius]

And no one here is denying that there is terror committed by people who proclaim themselves to be Muslim. It is a problem that needs to be dealt with. However, we have an administration in charge of the US that willfully ignores right wing and other forms of terror to focus only on terror committed by these individuals who call themselves Muslims. When news came out about the Quebec mosque shooting, there was a Fox News headline that mentioned one of the people involved was of Moroccan origin. Trump pointed at that to justify his temporary travel ban on twitter. Trump supporters were joyful on twitter and facebook that their prejudices were confirmed. Then it turned out that the Moroccan man was actually the one who called it in and was a witness while the shooter was a lone white French Canadian guy. Fox News later corrected their headline. Trump's public response? Nothing. Utter silence. It didn't fit the narrative. Instead, he and his team makes up Islamic terror attacks. Bowling Green. Atlanta. Sweden.

Donald Trump’s transition team made clear to officials at the Department of Homeland Security after the election that it wants to reorient programs meant to counter violent extremism so that they focus almost exclusively on the threat posed by radical Islamic terrorism rather than other forms of extremism.

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Why ignore right wing terror, which is statistically more likely to happen? THAT is dangerous. Period. We need to fight against all forms of terror and violence.

[frugalkoenig]

Originally Posted by cuts_off_prius

Do you not read or something?

I'll take "or something" if that means I read the report including the part to which I alluded.

While the Boston marathon bombings were horrific, a top terrorism expert says that the Boston attack was more like Columbine than 9/11, and that the bombers are “murderers not terrorists”. The overwhelming majority of mass shootings were by non-Muslims. (This is true in Europe, as well as in the U.S.)

The idea that these brothers, animated by a problematic ideology, aren't terrorists because they are murderers does not bear scrutiny.

Originally Posted by cuts_off_prius

I'm not defending the credibility of the report. I'm just posting the reference to where a previous poster mentioned the report and someone asked where it came from.

I didn't think you were defending the credibility of that report, but noting the problem with its reasoning and conclusions.

[cuts_off_prius]

^I missed that part, my bad. Speaking as a Muslim myself, that sounds insane. Those brothers were scumbag terrorists and the younger one was asking for mercy "for the sake of Allah." What a load of... I have zero sympathy for them using religion as a justification for their horrendous act and they deserve the worst that comes to them.

[ChewChewTrain]

I'm enjoying this conversation, everyone, and, regardless of our different opinions, I'm the type that holds no ill feelings or grudges towards anyone...

UNLESS you're my two imbecilic, idiot, treacherous, conniving, heartless sisters. I left out STUPID!

[frugalkoenig]

Originally Posted by Draigflag

I was going to reference the Global Terrorism database. Despite a recent spike, for the last (almost) 50 years, very few terrorist attacks have been Islamic/Jihadi based at all in Europe. You're something like 9 times more likely to be killed by a Police officer than a Terrorist in the US.

C'mon people, don't let these Politicians play you like fools, educate yourself with facts and data, don't join the hate parade!

Have you considered that ignoring the recent spike may not be reasonable?

For the decade preceding December 7, 1941, the japanese had probably killed fewer americans than smoking and malnutrition. That doesn't make ignoring the problem with Japan in 1942 reasonable. For the two decades prior to 1981 far more people died from the complications associated with obesity than died from HIV/AIDS. That isn't an excellent excuse for regarding HIV/AIDS as no particular problem in 1995.

[frugalkoenig]

Originally Posted by cuts_off_prius

^I missed that part, my bad. Speaking as a Muslim myself, that sounds insane. Those brothers were scumbag terrorists and the younger one was asking for mercy "for the sake of Allah." Load a load of... I have zero sympathy for them using religion as a justification for their horrendous act and they deserve the worst that comes to them.

Excellent. I did not realize you were a Muslim.

You will understand then that in part because of a lack of hierarchy and structure, and a direct relationship with the book unmediated by another authority, you can condemn their acts, but you (and I) have very little authority in condemning them as un-Islamic.

This is the challenge faced by my Pakistani and Saudi friends. They have a faith and are interested in shaping their societies to work with the wider and functional world, but they face a very substantial opposition from within their own countries. The challenge for these people is to forge a future in which it is widely accepted amongst Muslim populations that one need not be retrograde or caliphist in order to be a faithful adherent. It would also be nice if they could accomplish this without being blown up, crucified or beheaded.

Some of my American friends contend that this is impossible given the body of text from which Muslims draw. I do not share that contention.

[Draigflag]

I still think US citizens armed with firearms are a bigger threat, even though that threat itself is probably very minor. Here's a tiny list of a few reported incidents involving firearms from the last 72 hours on US soil.

February 22, 2017 Kansas Leawood
February 22, 2017 Texas Marion (county)
February 22, 2017 Missouri Kansas City
February 22, 2017 South Carolina Gray Court
February 22, 2017 Louisiana Lafayette
February 22, 2017 Louisiana Lafayette
February 22, 2017 Florida Fort Myers
February 22, 2017 Texas Houston
February 22, 2017 Texas Conroe
February 22, 2017 Texas Arlington
February 22, 2017 Louisiana Marrero
February 22, 2017 Louisiana Baton Rouge
February 22, 2017 California Coachella
February 22, 2017 California Bakersfield
February 22, 2017 Minnesota Saint Paul
February 22, 2017 Illinois Chicago
February 22, 2017 Illinois Chicago
February 22, 2017 Tennessee Gallatin
February 22, 2017 Texas Houston
February 21, 2017 Colorado Colorado Springs
February 21, 2017 New York Utica
February 21, 2017 Colorado Colorado Springs
February 21, 2017 Colorado Denver
February 21, 2017 New Jersey Trenton
February 21, 2017 New York Buffalo
February 21, 2017 Pennsylvania Pittsburgh
February 21, 2017 Ohio Cleveland
February 21, 2017 Nevada Las Vegas
February 21, 2017 Texas Houston
February 21, 2017 Nebraska Valley
February 21, 2017 Wisconsin Racine
February 21, 2017 Ohio Columbus
February 21, 2017 Oregon Beaverton
February 21, 2017 Iowa Mount Pleasant (Mt Pleasant)
February 21, 2017 New Jersey Atlantic City
February 21, 2017 North Carolina Garner
February 21, 2017 Ohio Springfield
February 21, 2017 Maryland Baltimore
February 21, 2017 Maryland Baltimore
February 21, 2017 Kentucky Oak Grove
February 21, 2017 North Carolina Salisbury
February 21, 2017 North Carolina Greensboro
February 21, 2017 Delaware Wilmington
February 21, 2017 North Carolina Gastonia
February 21, 2017 Ohio Massillon
February 21, 2017 Illinois Springfield
February 21, 2017 Kentucky Paducah
February 21, 2017 Illinois Belleville
February 21, 2017 Florida Jacksonville
February 21, 2017 Florida Jacksonville
February 21, 2017 Florida Jacksonville
February 21, 2017 Florida Pensacola
February 21, 2017 Florida Orlando
February 21, 2017 Florida Orlando
February 21, 2017 Florida Sarasota
February 21, 2017 Illinois Chicago
February 21, 2017 Tennessee Chattanooga (East Ridge)
February 21, 2017 Tennessee Chattanooga
February 21, 2017 Kentucky Betsy Layne
February 21, 2017 Illinois Chicago (Englewood)
February 21, 2017 South Carolina North Charleston
February 21, 2017 Alabama Mobile
February 21, 2017 Texas Houston
February 21, 2017 California San Diego
February 21, 2017 Alabama Baldwin (county)
February 21, 2017 Texas Abilene
February 21, 2017 Florida West Palm Beach
February 21, 2017 South Carolina Anderson
February 21, 2017 South Carolina Easley
February 21, 2017 Maine Oakland
February 21, 2017 Missouri Saint Louis
February 21, 2017 Mississippi Natchez
February 21, 2017 Mississippi Toomsuba
February 21, 2017 Utah Ogden
February 21, 2017 New Hampshire Manchester
February 21, 2017 Utah Roy
February 21, 2017 Louisiana Hammond
February 21, 2017 Florida Orlando
February 21, 2017 Alabama Birmingham
February 21, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans
February 21, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans
February 21, 2017 Ohio Toledo
February 21, 2017 Louisiana Baton Rouge
February 21, 2017 Massachusetts New Bedford
February 21, 2017 California Covina
February 21, 2017 California San Bernardino
February 21, 2017 Louisiana Metairie
February 21, 2017 California Indio
February 21, 2017 Massachusetts Worcester
February 21, 2017 Pennsylvania Mc Kees Rocks (Mckees Rocks)
February 21, 2017 Massachusetts Worcester
February 21, 2017 Massachusetts Boston
February 21, 2017 Illinois Chicago
February 21, 2017 Illinois Chicago (Roseland)
February 21, 2017 Texas Tatum
February 21, 2017 Texas Del Valle
February 21, 2017 Texas Killeen
February 21, 2017 Texas Laredo
February 21, 2017 Louisiana Shreveport
February 21, 2017 Texas Dallas
February 21, 2017 Texas Houston
February 21, 2017 Texas Houston
February 21, 2017 Arkansas Texarkana
February 21, 2017 Tennessee Memphis
February 21, 2017 Ohio Dayton
February 21, 2017 Nebraska Mc Cook (Mccook)
February 21, 2017 Nevada Las Vegas
February 21, 2017 Pennsylvania Harrisburg
February 21, 2017 Indiana Bloomington
February 21, 2017 Tennessee Chattanooga
February 21, 2017 Illinois Chicago
February 21, 2017 Nebraska Lincoln
February 21, 2017 Indiana Indianapolis
February 21, 2017 Louisiana Sibley
February 21, 2017 Ohio Akron
February 20, 2017 North Carolina Hickory
February 20, 2017 Washington Spokane
February 20, 2017 New York Buffalo
February 20, 2017 California Orosi
February 20, 2017 Texas Houston
February 20, 2017 Maryland Baltimore
February 20, 2017 California Oakland
February 20, 2017 California Antioch
February 20, 2017 Ohio Cleveland
February 20, 2017 Texas Fort Worth
February 20, 2017 Mississippi Byhalia
February 20, 2017 Texas Bastrop
February 20, 2017 Texas Galveston
February 20, 2017 Arizona Phoenix
February 20, 2017 Arizona Tucson
February 20, 2017 Texas Grand Prairie
February 20, 2017 Kentucky Murray
February 20, 2017 Missouri Saint Louis
February 20, 2017 Tennessee Mcdonald
February 20, 2017 Tennessee Memphis
February 20, 2017 Wisconsin Madison
February 20, 2017 Rhode Island Central Falls
February 20, 2017 Georgia Thomasville
February 20, 2017 Wisconsin Madison (Fitchburg)
February 20, 2017 Ohio Akron
February 20, 2017 Florida Naples
February 20, 2017 Florida Fort Myers
February 20, 2017 North Carolina Sanford
February 20, 2017 Maryland Baltimore
February 20, 2017 Florida Miami
February 20, 2017 Florida Ocala
February 20, 2017 Virginia Portsmouth
February 20, 2017 Maryland Baltimore
February 20, 2017 Maryland Odenton
February 20, 2017 Florida Sarasota
February 20, 2017 Florida Brooksville
February 20, 2017 Delaware Wilmington
February 20, 2017 Pennsylvania Philadelphia
February 20, 2017 Colorado Brighton
February 20, 2017 North Carolina Roxboro
February 20, 2017 North Carolina Gastonia
February 20, 2017 North Carolina Raleigh
February 20, 2017 Texas Paris
February 20, 2017 District of Columbia Washington
February 20, 2017 Ohio Cincinnati
February 20, 2017 North Carolina Burlington
February 20, 2017 Alabama Birmingham
February 20, 2017 North Carolina Salisbury
February 20, 2017 South Carolina Greenville
February 20, 2017 Indiana Indianapolis
February 20, 2017 Pennsylvania Philadelphia
February 20, 2017 Missouri Saint Joseph
February 20, 2017 Virginia Hampton
February 20, 2017 New York Brooklyn
February 20, 2017 Florida Miami
February 20, 2017 Indiana Rising Sun
February 20, 2017 Florida Orlando
February 20, 2017 Virginia Chesterfield
February 20, 2017 Tennessee Lebanon
February 20, 2017 Michigan Detroit
February 20, 2017 Virginia Roanoke
February 20, 2017 Arkansas Benton
February 20, 2017 Florida Leesburg
February 20, 2017 New York New York (Manhattan)
February 20, 2017 Virginia Newport News
February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago
February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago
February 20, 2017 Virginia Richmond
February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago
February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago
February 20, 2017 Georgia Jonesboro
February 20, 2017 Georgia Ellenwood
February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago
February 20, 2017 California Whittier
February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago
February 20, 2017 Tennessee Martin
February 20, 2017 Tennessee Camden
February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago
February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago (Englewood)
February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago
February 20, 2017 Florida Jacksonville
February 20, 2017 Florida Miami Gardens
February 20, 2017 California Pomona
February 20, 2017 California Fresno
February 20, 2017 California Bakersfield
February 20, 2017 Oklahoma Norman
February 20, 2017 Mississippi Louisville
February 20, 2017 South Carolina Columbia
February 20, 2017 Texas Abilene
February 20, 2017 California Riverside
February 20, 2017 Florida Bradenton
February 20, 2017 Michigan Detroit
February 20, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans
February 20, 2017 Missouri Kansas City (Raytown)
February 20, 2017 South Carolina Summerville
February 20, 2017 Mississippi Hattiesburg
February 20, 2017 Mississippi Canton
February 20, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans
February 20, 2017 Indiana Evansville
February 20, 2017 Florida Fort Myers
February 20, 2017 Georgia Atlanta
February 20, 2017 Alabama Birmingham
February 20, 2017 Texas Copperas Cove
February 20, 2017 New Hampshire Portsmouth
February 20, 2017 Illinois Rockford
February 20, 2017 Iowa Mount Pleasant
February 20, 2017 South Carolina Rock Hill
February 20, 2017 South Carolina Hilton Head Island
February 20, 2017 Mississippi Jackson
February 20, 2017 New York Brockport
February 20, 2017 Michigan Detroit
February 20, 2017 Michigan Detroit
February 20, 2017 Michigan Detroit
February 20, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans
February 20, 2017 Louisiana Shreveport
February 20, 2017 Texas San Antonio
February 20, 2017 Indiana Indianapolis
February 20, 2017 Indiana Brownsburg
February 20, 2017 Texas Lubbock
February 20, 2017 New Hampshire Farmington
February 20, 2017 Pennsylvania Wilkes Barre
February 20, 2017 Connecticut Bridgeport
February 20, 2017 Ohio Cleveland
February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago
February 20, 2017 Mississippi Biloxi
February 20, 2017 Wisconsin Green Bay
February 20, 2017 Georgia Atlanta
February 20, 2017 New York Staten Island
February 20, 2017 Nebraska Lincoln
February 20, 2017 Pennsylvania Harrisburg
February 20, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans
February 20, 2017 Texas Dallas
February 20, 2017 Oregon Portland
February 20, 2017 Kansas Wichita
February 20, 2017 Oregon Wolf Creek
February 19, 2017 Ohio Kent
February 19, 2017 Alabama Auburn
February 19, 2017 California Castroville
February 19, 2017 Oregon Central Point
February 19, 2017 California Merced
February 19, 2017 California Merced
February 19, 2017 Wisconsin Milwaukee
February 19, 2017 Montana Dillon
February 19, 2017 District of Columbia Washington
February 19, 2017 New York Hilton
February 19, 2017 Virginia Newport News
February 19, 2017 North Carolina Thurmond
February 19, 2017 California Mc Farland (Mcfarland)
February 19, 2017 California San Ysidro
February 19, 2017 Virginia Richmond
February 19, 2017 Texas Fort Worth
February 19, 2017 South Carolina North Charleston
February 19, 2017 Texas Lubbock
February 19, 2017 Maryland Aberdeen
February 19, 2017 New York Tonawanda
February 19, 2017 Michigan Traverse City
February 19, 2017 West Virginia Charleston
February 19, 2017 Pennsylvania Clairton
February 19, 2017 West Virginia Charleston
February 19, 2017 Texas Humble
February 19, 2017 Illinois Chicago
February 19, 2017 Ohio Salem
February 19, 2017 Illinois Chicago (Englewood)
February 19, 2017 Texas Houston
February 19, 2017 North Carolina Salisbury
February 19, 2017 Illinois Chicago
February 19, 2017 Texas Houston
February 19, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans
February 19, 2017 Pennsylvania Philadelphia
February 19, 2017 Florida Jacksonville
February 19, 2017 Ohio Cleveland
February 19, 2017 Maryland Baltimore
February 19, 2017 Florida Miami
February 19, 2017 North Carolina Charlotte
February 19, 2017 Alabama Birmingham
February 19, 2017 South Carolina Prosperity
February 19, 2017 North Carolina Charlotte
February 19, 2017 Nebraska Omaha
February 19, 2017 Wisconsin Racine
February 19, 2017 Wisconsin Racine
February 19, 2017 Ohio Dayton
February 19, 2017 Texas Humble
February 19, 2017 Washington Seattle
February 19, 2017 New Jersey Jersey City
February 19, 2017 New Jersey Jersey City
February 19, 2017 North Carolina Charlotte
February 19, 2017 Kentucky Louisville
February 19, 2017 Indiana Evansville
February 19, 2017 Tennessee Memphis
February 19, 2017 Tennessee Memphis
February 19, 2017 California Los Angeles
February 19, 2017 Kentucky Marshall (county)
February 19, 2017 California Oakland
February 19, 2017 California San Jose
February 19, 2017 Pennsylvania Manheim
February 19, 2017 Pennsylvania Pittsburgh
February 19, 2017 West Virginia Morgantown
February 19, 2017 New Jersey Highland Park
February 19, 2017 New Jersey Trenton
February 19, 2017 Florida Gainesville
February 19, 2017 South Carolina Spartanburg
February 19, 2017 Georgia Savannah
February 19, 2017 Tennessee Memphis
February 19, 2017 Florida Orlando
February 19, 2017 Florida Pembroke Pines
February 19, 2017 New Jersey Atlantic City
February 19, 2017 New York Syracuse
February 19, 2017 New Jersey Pleasantville
February 19, 2017 Colorado Denver
February 19, 2017 California Visalia
February 19, 2017 Arkansas Bull Shoals
February 19, 2017 Idaho Preston
February 19, 2017 Maryland Baltimore
February 19, 2017 Florida Key West
February 19, 2017 Virginia Norfolk
February 19, 2017 Virginia Warrenton
February 19, 2017 Virginia Newport News
February 19, 2017 Virginia Richmond
February 19, 2017 Virginia Richmond
February 19, 2017 New York Brooklyn
February 19, 2017 Iowa Ames
February 19, 2017 Tennessee Franklin
February 19, 2017 Virginia Nellysford (Wintergreen)
February 19, 2017 Florida Tampa
February 19, 2017 Florida Tampa
February 19, 2017 Florida Jacksonville
February 19, 2017 Florida Jacksonville
February 19, 2017 Florida Jacksonville
February 19, 2017 Florida Jacksonville
February 19, 2017 Kentucky Erlanger
February 19, 2017 Florida Jacksonville
February 19, 2017 Florida Jacksonville
February 19, 2017 Ohio Cincinnati

Since I posted this, the list has already grown. If this worries you less than the threat of Islamic based terror, I don't know what to think really...

[frugalkoenig]

Originally Posted by Draigflag

I still think US citizens armed with firearms are a bigger threat, even though that threat itself is probably very minor. Here's a tiny list of a few reported incidents involving firearms from the last 72 hours on US soil.

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Since I posted this, the list has already grown. If this worries you less than the threat of Islamic based terror, I don't know what to think really...

It may help you to know what to think if you would refrain from the category error implicit in your argument. "Reported incidents involving firearms" isn't a growing political movement with a commitment to terrorism and a particular animosity for the US.

As to american firearm policy, note that many of the places you report make legal firearm possession so difficult that they are effectively banned by law.