Trump and the Auto Industry

[ChewChewTrain]

Originally Posted by trollbait

The cars of today aren't going to disappear overnight. There will still regular cars for people that want one, and used ones for the less well off. The switch over will be gradual, and allow time for addressing arising issues.

The "love affair" with cars is actually a generation thing.

Today's youth have much less interest with car ownership.

[14Corolla]

Originally Posted by R.I.D.E.

All Newspapers in the US are obsolete and will soon become as extinct as the dinosaurs.

The Main Stream Media in this country, has fallen to the integrity of the national enquirer. NYT is nothing but a propaganda machine.
Obama's objective was to destroy the western world. His Regulations. His everything. Was a big false act up front. When behind you, he was destroying you, slowly. His Regulations were ludicrous.
Trump just wants to give the common man breathing room. Green is good. But let it take over with demand. Not by abruptly eliminating everything else.

[ChewChewTrain]

Originally Posted by 14Corolla

The Main Stream Media in this country, has fallen to the integrity of the national enquirer. NYT is nothing but a propaganda machine.

Toilet paper contributes more to civilization than the Washington Post, too. The CIA paid the WP $600m. What's that cozy relationship tell you?

Can't remember the forum and the context, could've been Reddit, but someone said they knew someone that had worked at the National Enquirer. That source told them that the NE triple checks ALL details BEFORE publishing. The NE editors learned to do that after being sued in their earlier days. When's the last time you heard about the NE being sued? In other words, the National Enquirer really is a very trustworthy source of information, which none of the main stream media can say for themselves.

[trollbait]

Originally Posted by R.I.D.E.

I trust the OE manufacturers 1000 times more than the current crop unless they have surpassed OEM testing and controls as well as the 10-165k warranty. Even with those parameters the 2002 Insight I owned needed almost $7000 in warranty repairs in the 35k miles I owned it before selling it at 70 k miles.

Today an exploding hover board killed a child. Do you really want 50 pounds of that a foot from your arse.

Told the wife maybe we should NOT leave any device with lithium ion batteries hooked to a charger overnight, could wake up to a house fire, like the gal who went to sleep on the plane and woke up with her head on fire.

I know the Insight uses NIMH tech ancient and more stable, but Honda wants all those 1 gen Insights gone and they make the parts. That's a real uphill battle, once you take the reliability of replacement parts out of the repair and maintenance equation the techniques used to really fix broken cars, become so difficult it becomes a real crap shoot when you can not replace something and continue on to what else it takes to finish the job.

The little girl died in the fire started by the charging hoverboard, and it was likely one that was under the recall.

Several Teslas have caught fire when road debris pierced the battery pack. In all cases, the car warned the driver to pull over, and everyone got out without injury. From photos, it doesn't even appear the fire entered the passenger cabin. The deaths that did occur in a Tesla involve high speed, alcohol, and/or stupidity.

Traditional cars catching or starting fires is so common that it no longer rises to the level of national news like plug ins doing do.

There are merits to keeping Li-ion devices unplugged while sleeping. There are also merits for not storing gasoline anywhere inside your house.

Originally Posted by ChewChewTrain

The "love affair" with cars is actually a generation thing.

Today's youth have much less interest with car ownership.

Are they not interested, or can they not afford a car with their student debt?

I'm or sure once in a living situation where they can't depend on family, friends, and public transit, they will be interested in having a car. Or they will have to use the likes of Uber, who will need driverless cars, because there won't be enough drivers out there.

[cuts_off_prius]

This one's a doozy! Big League^TM.

Trump Administration To Eviscerate EPA Vehicle Testing Because It's Not Like Anything Bad Happened Recently

Reuters quote:

It represents a 99 percent federal cut to the vehicle testing budget and would require “pretty much shutting down the testing lab,” said Margo Oge, who headed the EPA’s Office of Transportation and Air Quality under President Barack Obama.

The proposal, which would also cut 168 out of 304 full-time jobs, seeks to partially fund current operations by boosting fees automakers and engine manufacturers pay for testing. An EPA official confirmed the document’s authenticity.

To be fair, the EPA barely does any testing as it is. They pretty much provide the procedure and the manufacturers test their vehicles on an honor-based system. Occasionally, vehicles do get 'audited' by the EPA though I believe.

[ChewChewTrain]

Originally Posted by cuts_off_prius

This one's a doozy! Big League^TM.

Trump Administration To Eviscerate EPA Vehicle Testing Because It's Not Like Anything Bad Happened Recently

Reuters quote:


To be fair, the EPA barely does any testing as it is. They pretty much provide the procedure and the manufacturers test their vehicles on an honor-based system. Occasionally, vehicles do get 'audited' by the EPA though I believe.

GOOD! Shrinking the EPA will leave more $$$ for July 4th fireworks.

[trollbait]

I think this is just part of Trump's budget proposal that cuts everything but military spending.

Originally Posted by ChewChewTrain

GOOD! Shrinking the EPA will leave more $$$ for July 4th fireworks.

And how is that?

[cuts_off_prius]

The latest headlines:

New York Times: Bigger, Faster, More Lavish: Americans Crave S.U.V.s, and Carmakers Oblige

New York Times quote:

“We don’t think that the rate of growth of S.U.V.s will necessarily continue, but we do believe the shift to them is permanent,” said Mike Manley, head of Fiat Chrysler’s Jeep division.

Some of the newest S.U.V.s also cater to consumers interested in prestige, luxury, and, above all, comfort.

One such vehicle, Ford’s new Lincoln Navigator, is bigger and more powerful than the model it will replace, and is packed with features like a dial that selects from six modes set for varying weather conditions and terrain.

The American Car Market Is Basically Just SUVs Now (based on NY Times article, but comments are always interesting)

Automakers Want To Strike A Deal Between Trump And California Over Emissions