Trump and the Auto Industry

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The only casualty from the death of the TPP: fuel efficient and practical imported small trucks.

The Death Of The TPP Means You Can Kiss Your Imported Small Truck Dreams Goodbye

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Not everyone in Europe hates Trump, watch this!

https://youtu.be/j-xxis7hDOE

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hahahaha They did a GREAT job impersonating Trump's speaking pattern.

Knowing how you feel about Trump, Paul, I suspected something fishy.

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Executive Orders Coming to EPA, but Will Automakers Get Their Wish?

Stay tuned.

Interesting discussions they're having down in the comments section. What I love about reading TTAC.

Also this update. The guy who tried to sue the EPA like 14 times is now the head of the EPA.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...nate-head-epa/

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I remember when Pop went to a new Air Force base to start the process of computerizing payroll operations, back when the US debt was maybe half a trillion dollars, 1/40th of what it is now.

The people at that base were scared that they would loose their jobs and they tried everything to get dirt on Pop, thinking if they could bribe him or get him fired, was the solution to the inevitable automation they and millions of others faced over the next 4-5 decades.

They even hired hookers to pick him up at a bar and videotape the "compromising" actions they were sure he would take when faced with such temptation.

Now those workers, at least the ones that really looked to the future, are some of the highest paid IT specialists, operators, and systems analysts with great job security and benefits the rest of us could only dream of having.

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Originally Posted by cuts_off_prius

Executive Orders Coming to EPA, but Will Automakers Get Their Wish?

Stay tuned.

Interesting discussions they're having down in the comments section. What I love about reading TTAC.

Also this update. The guy who tried to sue the EPA like 14 times is now the head of the EPA.

Scott Pruitt Confirmed by Senate to Head EPA

I once asked my brother to give me a referral for an attorney to prosecute a breach of contract case. He told me to hire this attorney, the one that had sued his company 4 times and won 3 of the four suits.

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Originally Posted by Draigflag

Wondered how long before we saw something about Trump on here. The bloke is going to be an absolute disaster, and we thought Brexit was a bad idea. I just don't get how someone with his level of naivety, arrogance, and lack of experience gets elected, besides all the hatred he's been spreading about various sexes, religions, races etc, really baffles me.

But apart from all that, he believes climate change is a "hoax" despite billions being spent on scientific research that has proven the opposite for the last 30 years or so. He wants to rip the solar panels off the white house, drop out the Paris climate change treaty, and start drilling for oil again. He will be a complete environmental disaster. Also, if he actually goes ahead and bans 1.6 billion people for thier religious beliefs, I vow never to step on US soil whilst he's in office. Good luck.

It's odd to assert that "we thought Brexit was a bad idea" when your form of representative government approved it, and to assert that Trump is naive and arrogant whilst simultaneously misunderstanding american policy.

People in the US buy cars that fit their needs and desires. The federal policy that made cars smaller and more fuel efficient just pushed affluent people into trucks. In my morning commute, "Mini"vans (what's "mini" about a two ton Honda with a 270hp engine?) and SUVs easily outnumber cars. Lots of families have two or three of these trucks, and not a single car.

I don't believe you would see average fuel efficiency decrease in the US if the EPA scraped its mileage floors, though you might see larger cars marketed to people who now buy trucks.

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Originally Posted by R.I.D.E.

I remember when Pop went to a new Air Force base to start the process of computerizing payroll operations, back when the US debt was maybe half a trillion dollars, 1/40th of what it is now.

In other words, the US National Debt was 1/40th of what it is today until Gary's Dad was hired to computerize the federal payroll.

DAMN, I'M FUNNY!

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Automakers Didn't Waste a Day Asking New EPA Head for Relief

CAFE is stupid anyway, because it's largely based on vehicle footprint (i.e. longer wheelbase, more lax efficiency targets and vice versa). I'll save that for a separate thread

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Originally Posted by cuts_off_prius

Automakers Didn't Waste a Day Asking New EPA Head for Relief

CAFE is stupid anyway, because it's largely based on vehicle footprint (i.e. longer wheelbase, more lax efficiency targets and vice versa). I'll save that for a separate thread

Whether or not Trump relaxes the CAFE rules doesn't really matter at this time. EVs have established a beachhead and will only become more popular as battery tech improves yearly.

If Trump is wise, he'll play his "card" by appeasing the car companies knowing that, in the long game, it really doesn't matter.

The USA car companies are repeating history. GM won their California CAFE battle and used that victory to crush their EV1 project in 1999. Meanwhile, Toyota rolled with the CAFE rule punches and produced the first Prius in 1997. Gee. The Prius has been in production for 20 years?