The Electric Vehicle Disruption - End Of Oil by 2030

[ChewChewTrain]

Tony Seba, Stanford University lecturer, gave this presentation on March 2016.

Snippet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7Jg1IJ68_g

Full presentation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxryv2XrnqM

[Draigflag]

It's ok Doug, we remember when you posted this the first time. How much time do you have to watch YouTube videos anyway?

[ChewChewTrain]

Too much time, Paul. I'm between gigs right now.

Tony Seba has different video posts. This one was the most recent. Also, new Fuelly members would likely not dig through the archives to see my first posting of this.

It's like CNN rerunning the same news story all day!

What's the general UK mood about Trump, Paul?

[Draigflag]

Trump has given comedians years worth of writing material, he has become the laughing stock of the World. Seems like every day he edges closer towards being a dictator. What's the latest, he wants to bring back certain torturing methods? If he's not careful, he's going to isolate the US from other World leaders who wont want anything to do with a violent person in office. Our Prime Minister has stated she won't share intelligence with him if he brings back torturing methods.

[R.I.D.E.]

I stop listening when I hear "no maintenance".

[ChewChewTrain]

Originally Posted by R.I.D.E.

I stop listening when I hear "no maintenance".

Gary, are you talkin' 'bout cars or women?

[R.I.D.E.]

Both. (I needed 5 more characters for the post to be listed)

[SteveMak]

I saw the video, and I want my 11 minutes 26 seconds of my life back :-(

Claims of a "Tesla Infinite Mile Warranty" and "Zero maintenance" leave me with my eyes rolling. Ignore that 60% of Tesla Model S owners who need an entirely new drivetrain before 60,000 miles. Ask Tesla whatdo they warranty for an infinite number of miles... and how many months do they limit so you'll never get close?

The Tesla is "the best car ever" (say consumer reports). Right. As long as you're okay with body panels and door not aligning in a $100,000 vehicle, and replacing your drive train before 60,000 miles, it's way good. Riiiiiigh (in my best Dr. Evil voice).

"An electric motor is WAY more powerful than in internal combustion engine." Always? Nah. Not always. Your mileage might vary. Just because you have an EV does not mean you'll toast every ICE on the road.

"You'll soon be able to get Porsche performance for Buick prices." I would not recommend holding your breath for "soon" to arrive.

"Minimum range to go mainstream is 320 kilometers" (198 miles). Better check that with your neighbors to see if they agree.

"By 2020, and maybe before, EVs will be cheaper to buy (than ICE) and they will be 10x to 100x cheaper to maintain... This is the tipping point." That's less than 4 years away, assuming the END of 2020. Call me skeptical.

"By 2022 the undustry will be able to build a $20,000 EV." Yeah, I'm still waiting for the $5 PC, based on historic price declines. Also remember "Moore's Law" about computer power doubling every few years? Do you know the "law" no longer applies, and hasn't for a number of years?

"By 2025, all new vehicles will be electric... all new buses, all new cars, all new tractors... anything that moves on four wheels will be electric... globally." Maybe in locales where that's the law. I don't believe because it'll make engineering and purchasing sense to do so.

Do I need to go on? I'm calling "hyperbole" on this.

[R.I.D.E.]

Remember E-store. Charge it for 5 minutes, drive 250 miles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EEStor

MELT YOUR HOUSES WIRING.

[R.I.D.E.]

Outlandish warranty claims are just an insult to any semi intelligent car owner-driver. At least in the old Midas muffler commercials, the company was around to honor their "lifetime" warranty".

Know any "lifetime warranties" that survived a company bankruptcy?

Our collective memories must be pitiful. Maybe I'm plagued with to good a memory.

As a general rule, anytime I hear lifetime warranty uttered by a salesperson, I'm finished with any further communication sine it has just entered the dream world and exited reality.