Ron Paul 2008

[SVOboy]

If you knew the people I went to school with I'd seem like a dumbass...I wonder what kind of support ron paul has here...

[Snax]

Originally Posted by bowtieguy

i appreciate that you think for yourself. your state is mostly dem right? the katrina fiasco, if i remember, was created when local gov't "dropped the ball." those dems blamed "others" instead.

well it's good to hear from an informed voter!

And so Ron Paul has something to do with that how?

If you want to slam Democrats in general, I suggest a new thread. I don't want to muddy up this one with that issue.

Stepping back into topic, I contend that Ron Paul isn't a true Republican, as his ideology clearly takes a step back from the micromanagement of peoples' lives with a live and let live mentality. That is actually the Libertarian view. I.e., "I don't care what you do in your own home, just don't touch my stuff!"

[SVOboy]

I fancied him as a bit of a libertarian too, expect he had a few things I didn't think were so much so, but up in NH republicans and libertarians seem to be about the same.

[Snax]

Radio talk show host Thom Hartmann likes to refer to them as 'Republicans who like to smoke pot and get laid.'

That's probably keeping him out of popularity with 'right to life' and 'gay marriage-a-phobes'. Don't expect Focus on the Family to be rendering an endorsement there.

[88HF]

Paul believes in property rights. He doesn't believe anyone has the right to pollute.

[bowtieguy]

Originally Posted by Snax

And so Ron Paul has something to do with that how?

If you want to slam Democrats in general, I suggest a new thread. I don't want to muddy up this one with that issue.

Stepping back into topic, I contend that Ron Paul isn't a true Republican, as his ideology clearly takes a step back from the micromanagement of peoples' lives with a live and let live mentality. That is actually the Libertarian view. I.e., "I don't care what you do in your own home, just don't touch my stuff!"

sorry!, forgot about this thread. YES, the comment about the dems IS pertinent to this thread. simply because 88HF is in an area of prodominantly dem voters, yet he chooses to think(and vote) for himself.

i've seen it MANY times--an uniformed voter, voting strictly on heresay, follows the crowd blindly; be it family, social status, income range, etc.

now as far as the mud slinging goes, the repubs have been blasted far more than the dems on this site! it's agreed tho, no more on this thread.

i'll say it again. we need more independent politcians. but, can any party outside the dems and repubs win a major election?

[SVOboy]

Can anyone really call southern democrats "democrats" in the normal sense...just look at the guy running for governor of Mississippi! Bah.

Independents could win with major overhaul of the election system, however, the US has been a country for too long and now it's stagnant to any real change.

[thisisntjared]

Originally Posted by 88HF

If you want to get involved with a president that will help stop subsidizing gasoline

he will probably be assassinated within the first year of presidency.

i am very likely going to be voting for him.

Originally Posted by Snax

If you want to slam Democrats in general, I suggest a new thread. I don't want to muddy up this one with that issue.

i agree

Originally Posted by SVOboy

If you knew the people I went to school with I'd seem like a dumbass...I wonder what kind of support ron paul has here...

intelligence does not imply wisdom. but to address the second issue of support from dartmouth, i trust that most would research before rushing to judgment.

[cfg83]

bowtieguy -

Originally Posted by bowtieguy

sorry!, forgot about this thread. YES, the comment about the dems IS pertinent to this thread. simply because 88HF is in an area of prodominantly dem voters, yet he chooses to think(and vote) for himself.

i've seen it MANY times--an uniformed voter, voting strictly on heresay, follows the crowd blindly; be it family, social status, income range, etc.

now as far as the mud slinging goes, the repubs have been blasted far more than the dems on this site! it's agreed tho, no more on this thread.

i'll say it again. we need more independent politcians.

Would you be willing to have publicly funded elections? Again, that would cost you and me more in taxes, but then we could go back to calling a bribe a bribe instead of a "campaign contribution".

but, can any party outside the dems and repubs win a major election?

I think that Instant-Runoff-Voting (IRV) would go a long way towards solving the big/little party problem :

http://www.instantrunoff.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting

CarloSW2

[bowtieguy]

Carlos,

VERY good info. had no idea something like IRV existed. can you imagine the risk/reward factor to the two major parties if this was fully implemented?

it would give independents a chance while making the "big dogs" clean up their acts or be forced out.

yes more/higher taxes is a sore spot for me. the gov't needs to budget like many of us do. perhaps that's what makes Ron Paul so attractive.