E15 will replace E10! EPA deadline for comments =5/21/2009.

[Jay2TheRescue]

Ethanol will eat up rubber parts in fuel lines and carbureators of older vehicles made before about 1980.

[theclencher]

Well yah, but isn't testy talking about internal damage?

[dkjones96]

Yeah but the rubber hoses and the seals in the carb can all be changed out for under $100 on almost any car. Plus, a car that hasn't had the carb rebuilt or rubber hoses replaced in the last 20 years probably should have it done anyways.

It's almost like everyone is mad because they assume that without the ethanol all of those seals and hoses would last indefinitely.

[thisisntjared]

Originally Posted by Fueltesters

- Food debates are a waste of time - Since technology/science is here to make ethanol out of cellulose, grass, garbage, and other non-food sources, etc.

right the technology is here but are they doing it??? when it is made from algea, cellulose, grass or garbage then i will have no problems it.

[theholycow]

There's going to have to be more demand before there's significant effort and investment in waste stream/alternative feedstocks for ethanol.

As it stands, ethanol really isn't affecting food prices. It's the cost of energy that drove up food prices. Farmers pay more for their tractor fuel (but don't get paid more for their corn), processing companies use huge amounts of energy making the corn into useful products, etc...

[VetteOwner]

Originally Posted by dkjones96

Yeah but the rubber hoses and the seals in the carb can all be changed out for under $100 on almost any car. Plus, a car that hasn't had the carb rebuilt or rubber hoses replaced in the last 20 years probably should have it done anyways.

It's almost like everyone is mad because they assume that without the ethanol all of those seals and hoses would last indefinitely.

exactly, even if the ethonal would happen to be the cause for the lines to rot its time to change them anyways

[VetteOwner]

Originally Posted by theholycow

There's going to have to be more demand before there's significant effort and investment in waste stream/alternative feedstocks for ethanol.

As it stands, ethanol really isn't affecting food prices. It's the cost of energy that drove up food prices. Farmers pay more for their tractor fuel (but don't get paid more for their corn), processing companies use huge amounts of energy making the corn into useful products, etc...

not to mention the semis hauling said grain everywhere same with trains.

[theholycow]

I figured the semis hauling grain and ethanol cancel out against the semis hauling gasoline and ships hauling crude oil, and I usually take all of them out of the equation.