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05-17-2013, 09:29 PM
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Registered Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
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Country: United States
Location: NC
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Suggest to use median MPG for a group of cars
It is reasonable to use average MGP (mean value) for one car. However, median value makes more statistic sense when calculating MPG for a group of cars. I saw people entered unrealistic MPG for their car. It may significantly pull the average MPG up for their car model. By using median, the unrealist MPG is just one sample point. If all other samples are real, it won't impact the overall result much.
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05-18-2013, 02:22 AM
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Location: Mid Wales
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Good idea, but most cars have around 3 or 4 different engine options, of those, some have more HP than others, some are diesel other petrol, and there's usualy 3 different gearboxes you can get too. All of the above use different amount of fuel so if you ask me, there are way too many options/varients for anyone to work out an average. Just my opinion though
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05-19-2013, 03:38 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2013
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Location: 40601
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I look up my car, filtering for year and engine (fuelly won't select for transmission type) and then start comparing. And even then I see many cars with incredibly unrealistic MPG listed for at least one entry. From that point on, I can no longer trust their entries and I disregard them in my personal comparisons.
Despite the fact that I really enjoy how this site helps me track and compare my mileage, we are still dealing with subjective data, as there are no objective controls that can be put in place. We do the best we can sort through it, but this information is only as good as the entries of the members, which are all over the place. In the fuel talk section I repeatedly tried to tell someone that they were never going to get truly accurate MPG unless they started filling their tank and as far as I can tell he still isn't doing that.
All that said, I agree, median mileage would be a better gauge than average (mean) MPG for vehicles.
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05-20-2013, 12:07 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 329
Country: United Kingdom
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Like Draig said earlier, I think it is meaningless unless separated by engine / fuel type etc.
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05-20-2013, 09:52 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 5
Country: Canada
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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If there are enough vehicles... it really won't make much of a difference.
What bothers me, is that there are people with my vehicle that strictly use it on the highway, while I almost strictly drive in the city... making me look like an idiot.
But that's minor! haha
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05-21-2013, 02:54 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 55
Country: United States
Location: 40601
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The city/highway percentages are always going to be subjective on this website anyway.
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05-22-2013, 08:15 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 2
Country: United States
Location: California
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I agree - I am one of those people posting horribly unrealistic MPG numbers for my car - but after an engine swap to diesel and some careful driving and LRR tires - that's what it's getting. I don't mean to mess up the stats, but I am doing just that.
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05-22-2013, 02:01 PM
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Registered Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 2
Country: Canada
Location: Southern Ontario
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Agree on using the median value for fuel economy. There's too many ways in which the mean value can get skewed. Biggest source of error would be the city vs. hwy driving as it's been mentioned.
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05-22-2013, 04:49 PM
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Registered Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,386
Country: United Kingdom
Location: Mid Wales
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Yes especialy where I live, we dont have any highways (motorways in the UK) and my nearest city is some 65 miles away too!
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05-26-2013, 11:31 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 322
Country: United States
Location: Dallas, Tx
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Thanks for the feedback, we'll take this suggestion into consideration as we plan the coming iterations of the site.
Also, we're planning to add a VIN decode function which should allow us to have more granular taxonomy to organize the vehicles. This will allow for more detailed reports by make, engine and transmission. This will be one of our top priorities since we think it's very important to capture this data about the vehicles participating in Fuelly so we can build a better data set for everyone to benefit from our crowd sourced results.
Keep the great feedback coming!
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