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03-01-2006, 07:12 AM
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how ANALytical do we want to
how ANALytical do we want to get though? if using EPA combined as a measure of hypermileage status, shouldn't we also be recording our % hwy/city proportions in the gaslog? (since the EPA combined figure is weighted at 55/45 city/hwy, if i'm not mistaken - maybe it's the other way around).
last time i figured it out (when i was still using combined data from both fireflies), i was around 70/30 hwy/city. that would make *my* EPA-based hypermileage target 47.5 (calculated), not 46 (as listed).
boo! that would mean i'm now only .09 mpg into hypermileage territory.
i vote we stick with the posted EPA combined as the threshold
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03-01-2006, 08:11 AM
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Re: how ANALytical do we want to
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Originally Posted by MetroMPG
how ANALytical do we want to get though? if using EPA combined as a measure of hypermileage status, shouldn't we also be recording our % hwy/city proportions in the gaslog? (since the EPA combined figure is weighted at 55/45 city/hwy, if i'm not mistaken - maybe it's the other way around).
last time i figured it out (when i was still using combined data from both fireflies), i was around 70/30 hwy/city. that would make *my* EPA-based hypermileage target 47.5 (calculated), not 46 (as listed).
boo! that would mean i'm now only .09 mpg into hypermileage territory.
i vote we stick with the posted EPA combined as the threshold
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I doesn't matter to me. If prompted to enter % trip type I would have to enter 25% highway and 75% city. But my city isn't really city, it is suburban. The EPA combined would the simplest.
I wonder how much the firefly would get on my commute? I would guess 60-65MPG. Next time you are "down under", stop by. We can take a whack at it. :-)
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03-01-2006, 08:32 AM
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Re: how ANALytical do we want to
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Originally Posted by MetroMPG
how ANALytical do we want to get though? if using EPA combined as a measure of hypermileage status, shouldn't we also be recording our % hwy/city proportions in the gaslog? (since the EPA combined figure is weighted at 55/45 city/hwy, if i'm not mistaken - maybe it's the other way around).
last time i figured it out (when i was still using combined data from both fireflies), i was around 70/30 hwy/city. that would make *my* EPA-based hypermileage target 47.5 (calculated), not 46 (as listed).
boo! that would mean i'm now only .09 mpg into hypermileage territory.
i vote we stick with the posted EPA combined as the threshold
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I agree about keeping this one simple. I believe it's impossible for us to know for certain how much of our commutes are highway, and how much are city. I for one won't be driving around with a pencil and paper recording every mile driven. I have a hard enough time keeping track of my gasoline receipts (one of which i can't find btw).
What exactly is the threshold for hypermilage status again? Is it 20% above combined epa?
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03-01-2006, 08:47 AM
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Re: how ANALytical do we want to
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What exactly is the threshold for hypermilage status again? Is it 20% above combined epa?
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No, the 20% is Valedictorian status. Here are the details from Wayne Gerdes whom I believe coined the term:
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Originally Posted by Wayne Gerdes
To be included in the hypermiler list, you need to maintain an lmpg (Lifetime mpg) > EPA city/hwy estimates combined per the Real Mileage Database after a minimum of 5 tanks. The Valedictorian class includes those that have achieved and maintained an lmpg 20% greater then their respective automobiles EPA highway estimates over 5 + tanks.
___The following is what the Hybrid pilots should strive too …
Insight 5-speed: 65.5 mpg
Insight CVT: 56.5 mpg
Prius II: 55.5 mpg
HCH: 47/48.5 mpg
Prius I: 48.5 mpg
Escape HEV (2WD/4WD): 33.5/31 mpg
AH: 33 mpg
HH (2WD/4WD): 30.5/29 mpg
RXh: 29 mpg
___Non-Hybrid pilot’s, please look up your combined EPA estimates from the EPA’s Fuel Economy site itself or off your EPA mandated new car window sticker.
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For more details see:
http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/congratulations-hyper-milers-33.679.html
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03-01-2006, 09:00 AM
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Re: how ANALytical do we want to
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For more details see:
http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/congratulations-hyper-milers-33.679.html
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Yikes! I just noted SVOboy is on the non-hybrid hypermiler list. And there is a 3cyl Metro at 46.7 MPG but the data is from 2004. Probably no winter tanks in that average.
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03-01-2006, 11:46 AM
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Image charts
Just spend the morning working on an image function for the MPG graphs.
It's still REALLY basic, but here we go:
While I'm still messing with it, I won't make it part of the garage yet. To make one for yourself, do the following:
Go to your garage entry for your vehicle, and place your mouse over the "edit" button. In the status bar at the bottom of the page you'll see your vehicle ID. You'll see something like "http://www.gassavers.org/node/edit/XXX" where "XXX" is your vehicle number.
Copy that number and put it in this URL:
http://www.gassavers.org/chart.php?vehicle=XXX (where XXX is your vehicle number).
I hope that made sense... My brain is a bit tired now.
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03-01-2006, 12:08 PM
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A few more, as an
A few more, as an example:
MetroMPG:
http://www.gassavers.org/chart.php?vehicle=400
krousdb:
http://www.gassavers.org/chart.php?vehicle=562
SVOBoy:
http://www.gassavers.org/chart.php?vehicle=360
DiamondLarry:
http://www.gassavers.org/chart.php?vehicle=322
JanGeo:
http://www.gassavers.org/chart.php?vehicle=508
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03-01-2006, 12:20 PM
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nice work, matt!
svoboy wins
nice work, matt!
svoboy wins for "coolest looking design"
krousdb wins for "mr consistency"
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03-01-2006, 01:32 PM
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Re: nice work, matt!svoboy wins
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nice work, matt!
svoboy wins for "coolest looking design"
krousdb wins for "mr consistency"
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Too bad that the women always go for cool looking over consistancy. But since I'm happily married it's OK for me to be boring.
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03-01-2006, 03:19 PM
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Quote:Yikes! I just noted
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Yikes! I just noted SVOboy is on the non-hybrid hypermiler list
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I think I've posted there twice, but I also wrote three articles for the site,
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svoboy wins for "coolest looking design"
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Thanks a lot, that's what I was going for!
Yay for matt.
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