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Old 08-24-2007, 02:33 PM   #1
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can only assume you're relating GW to hurricanes. sorry, but you are misinformed. hurricane experts that i've heard speak, agree that our current increased activity is no way related to GW, just a cycle. remember, i'm in favor of conservation, just not at the expense of new taxes and crippling our economy. please feel free to move to a wilderness home with no electricity and no car if you really support GW theories. not super educated, just a humble researcher.
You can assume that but you would be wrong. I'm relating one potential impact of global warming to try and gauge how strong your belief in your post is. What I was referring to wasn't related to the AMO, but to the increase in the percentage of more powerful hurricanes. Insurance companies aren't pulling out and demanding high rates because we're seeing the usual increase in number of storms associated with the AMO, they're doing this because our anthropogenic emissions are inducing high SSTs, which means we're more likely to see more powerful storms, not more storms compared to the average of where we are in the AMO. It doesn't matter of Florida gets hit by 10 CAT1or2s over the course of a hurricane season. The Gulf coast has taken and can take those storms. What matters are the odds that they'll get nailed by a CAT4or5, or that areas which used to be relatively safe will now get nailed. The percentage of CAT4and5 hurricanes has increased significantly over the past few decades. All I'm suggesting is you put your money where your post is. If anthropogenic emissions, most Carbon Dioxide, aren't responsible for the increase in the SSTs. We probably won't see more powerful hurricanes, and you'll stand to make a bundle. If your contention that anthropogenic emissions aren't causing the increase in SSTs is wrong, well, we'll probably continue to see an increase in the number of CAT4and5s, and you'll loose your shirt. All I'm saying is, put up or shut up...

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We examined the number of tropical cyclones and cyclone days as well as tropical cyclone intensity over the past 35 years, in an environment of increasing sea surface temperature. A large increase was seen in the number and proportion of hurricanes reaching categories 4 and 5. The largest increase occurred in the North Pacific, Indian, and Southwest Pacific Oceans, and the smallest percentage increase occurred in the North Atlantic Ocean. These increases have taken place while the number of cyclones and cyclone days has decreased in all basins except the North Atlantic during the past decade.
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Old 08-26-2007, 02:25 PM   #2
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please no more "spinning" of stats! 35 year study? if you go back 70 years you'll find hottest temps on record,not the 90s-2000s as reported. but on record--what does that mean? what about before recorded stats. one scientist has said the most intense and most frequent hurricane activity was about that time as well('30s). cycle,cycle,cycle. some scientists believe we may be heading towards a cooldown(iceage). so i'll stay where i am to avoid said natural cycle of hurricanes.
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put YOUR money where YOUR mouth is--move to the wilderness with no electricity and no car. when GW kills you, you'll have a great position serving the god of mother earth or be reincarnated as a polar bear to survive the freeeeeeze!
O.k. You're insane. Good luck with reality!
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...we SHOULD try to eliminate pollution in the mean time in a manner that sustains our economy!...
Vague references to articles sent by random ISPs isn't exactly research.

And I haven't seen ANY evidence that we are currently behaving in a sustainable manner in the USA, did you know we represent 5% of the worlds population and put out 25% of the green house gasses, you know, the kind that cause an increase in a planets temperature? Like Venus?

Did you know that Venus is incredibly hot? Hotter than mercury? Even though it is twice as far from the sun? This is ENTIRELY because of the greenhouse effect of its atmosphere.
http://www.solstation.com/stars/mercury.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus
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