Partial bed cover better than full. - Fuelly Forums

Click here to see important news regarding the aCar App

Go Back   Fuelly Forums > Fuel Talk > Aerodynamics
Today's Posts Search Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 07-20-2007, 08:23 PM   #1
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 66
Country: United States
Partial bed cover better than full.

Ran across a patent site that reminded me of some guys who ran 200+ at B'ville with an early S10. Seems that wind tunnel testing showed that a hard bed cover over the rearmost 50-60 percent of the bed showed less drag than a full bed cover. It looked odd, but it worked. Might be easy to test.
__________________

__________________
GasSavers_Graeme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2007, 11:50 AM   #2
ELF
Registered Member
 
ELF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 245
Country: United States
Ya, I read something somewhere, can't remember where, but, They tested trucks with the last 18 inches or so of the bed covered. and they had a lower CD than tail gate down, tailgate removed, full bed cover, and shell.
It seemed kinda weird, but yes that would be an easy one to test.
__________________

__________________
ELF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2007, 01:54 PM   #3
Registered Member
 
lunarhighway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 360
Country: United States
correct me if i'm wrong but could it be like this:
since because of the sharp cutoff of the cab, there will always be a wake behind it and the bed cover will only provide a surface for the air to reattach to near the end. the first part will be covered by a pocket of turbulent air
the bed contains a volume of air that's at ambient pressure and stable, while the wake behind the cabin is of lower pressure than ambient and turbulent, if they're fully separated by a cover things will stay that way, but if these two bodies of air are connected that might result in the pressure of the wake to become closer to ambient and/or to be less turbulent.resulting in a shorter wake = less drag. the rear bed cover still needs to be there to provide a surface for the air to reattach to and to keep the air in the bed apart. sort of like a rear defuser on a sports car but with a different air source.

that's my theory... don't know if there's any truth in it...
__________________

lunarhighway is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2007, 05:32 PM   #4
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 66
Country: United States
lunarhighway, your explanation agrees with my fuzzy recollection of the discussion at the time.
__________________
GasSavers_Graeme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2007, 08:30 AM   #5
Registered Member
 
Snax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 758
Country: United States
Here's my guess on what is going on which builds upon what is already suggested: With the bed fully covered, the turbulent air immediately behind the cab effectively rolls opposite the direction of travel. The lower part of that vortex tends to be slowed by contact with the bed cover, creating successive smaller vortecies the further back you go until the airflow reattaches near the rear. With the front part of the cover removed, the vortex created immediately behind the cab is much larger, but because of the cutoff at the leading edge of the bed cover, it does not propagate past the cutoff - effectively providing a single large vortex that requires less energy to sustain. (More like a big ball that just rolls in place behind the cab.) Without seeing test results, I would bet that the ideal length of open bed closely matches the total depth from the top of the cab to the bed floor.

In essence, this rolling ball of air provides a Bernouli effect to more smoothly route the outer air back down to the bed cover.
__________________
LiberalImage.com

I think, therefore I doubt.
Snax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2007, 08:01 AM   #6
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 66
Country: United States
Snax, I took a few minutes to measure my Colorado crew cab with short bed. Height from bed floor to top of roof is ~39". The bed length is ~65". If the open area of the bed is 39"--the resultant rear cover is only ~26" long and ~60" wide. I don't know if that's enough length to be effective. Of course, I could extend it a few inches past the tailgate.

Wonder what effect low vertical fences on the sides would have. Gonna have to think about this over another cup of coffee. Sounds like an underpowered ProStock truck.
__________________
GasSavers_Graeme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2007, 04:40 PM   #7
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 66
Country: United States
It was Gale Banks who built the S-15 that ran 222mph at B'ville in 1990. You can catch some glimpses of the partial, rear bed cover on the Banks Power web site. I'm going to drop him a letter to see if there's any info available.
__________________

__________________
GasSavers_Graeme is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
biodiesel as fuel additive for gasoline GasSavers_nathan Vegetable Oil and BioDiesel 44 09-29-2016 02:47 AM
Average running mileage on dashboard mistakely same as last fill-up. MatrixDom Fuelly Web Support and Community News 3 06-15-2011 03:21 AM
issue with image in signature banner brian83 Fuelly Web Support and Community News 5 09-13-2010 04:33 AM
116mpg in a geo xfi in Road and track magazine GasSavers_Ryland Automotive News, Articles and Products 17 05-24-2009 08:40 PM
Clip from Amsoil website -BS? GasSavers_RunningOnFumes General Fuel Topics 10 11-25-2007 04:57 AM

» Fuelly Android Apps
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.