Not everyone wants a large diesel engine

[papajack]

Why is it you can't get a truck with a small diesel? Most people do not need to pull a house, but would like the MPG.

[trollbait]

It is starting to change. The new Colorado will have a 2.5l I4, and the Ram can already be had with a 3L V6.

Smaller would be nicer. GM and VW, have sub 2L diesels for the Cruze and Golf elsewhere, but our auto press and public would likely complain about the acceleration.

[andyrobo]

I agree, I like small diesels. For what ever reason they are not as common in the USA as they are in Europe. Hopefully we will get more diesel option in the decade ahead as CAFE laws push OEMs to reach a 54.5 MPR for their fleets by 2025. This means we will see smaller, lighter weight vehicles with more efficient engines.

[TheSilverGhost]

Originally Posted by andyrobo

I agree, I like small diesels. For what ever reason they are not as common in the USA as they are in Europe. Hopefully we will get more diesel option in the decade ahead as CAFE laws push OEMs to reach a 54.5 MPR for their fleets by 2025. This means we will see smaller, lighter weight vehicles with more efficient engines.

well, GM's 350 diesel was the first introduction usa/canada had to the diesel on the level that it did ... and it made such a bad impression it nearly killed the diesel outright. not to mention stricter emissions standards in over here means that they're also more expensive than gassers to buy and maintain (diesel exhaust fluid, diesel isn't always cheaper than gas). I like how modern diesels are better with fuel mileage than an equivalent gasser but the cost involved in getting a diesel and owning it isn't worth it. it might be in europe, but I'm not living there

[financialnusource]

Originally Posted by andyrobo

I agree, I like small diesels. For what ever reason they are not as common in the USA as they are in Europe. Hopefully we will get more diesel option in the decade ahead as CAFE laws push OEMs to reach a 54.5 MPR for their fleets by 2025. This means we will see smaller, lighter weight vehicles with more efficient engines.

Hello you can find several options for diesel vehicles in different ares.

[financialnusource]

Originally Posted by andyrobo

I agree, I like small diesels. For what ever reason they are not as common in the USA as they are in Europe. Hopefully we will get more diesel option in the decade ahead as CAFE laws push OEMs to reach a 54.5 MPR for their fleets by 2025. This means we will see smaller, lighter weight vehicles with more efficient engines.

Hello you can find small engine vehicles in many areas. Diesel engine vehicles are easy to find in the market place and also internet websites.

[Draigflag]

My friend has an Isuzu pickup 2.5 TDI and he gets close to 40 MPG in it, and can still pull over 7000 lbs. American trucks seem to have massive yet underpowered petrol engines, bit of a joke compared to the stuff on sale in Europe.

[lnfidel]

Originally Posted by Draigflag

My friend has an Isuzu pickup 2.5 TDI and he gets close to 40 MPG in it, and can still pull over 7000 lbs. American trucks seem to have massive yet underpowered petrol engines, bit of a joke compared to the stuff on sale in Europe.

I don't know.

I have a F-350 it pulls 33,000 lbs. 7000 lbs is a bit of a joke compared to the stuff we pull around here.

Thanks the LOL though.

[Dieselmech2]

Originally Posted by lnfidel

I don't know.

I have a F-350 it pulls 33,000 lbs. 7000 lbs is a bit of a joke compared to the stuff we pull around here.

Thanks the LOL though.

Ignore him, when I moved to europe I couldn't understand people told me to watch out for arrogant eurotrash...then I met some like him and understood it. Fortunately they are few and far between. I took my f-250 to germany and helped haul some stuff for my landlord. He freaked when I loaded two fiats crossways on top of the box and strapped them down. He couldn't believe what it would carry, pallets of roof tiles, no problem, keep loading, yes slide that in and put another pallet on...and another..they had their mouths gapping as the truck pulled away with lots of suspension left.

[hellcat]

Some of the rules around crash testing in the US mandate fairly heavy impact structures. This coupled with the prevelance of steel 'ladder' type chassis and live rear axles just keeps on piling on the pounds. Putting in a smaller diesel engine may be less efficient than a larger one due to needing to spool it more to pull the extra weight.

The real benefit of a powerful diesel engine, is being able to hoon it around like a petrol (albeit a fairly front heavy one), but without the single-digit MPG!