View Poll Results: How much did you pay for your most FE vehicle?
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Less than $250
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14 |
9.40% |
$251 - $500
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15 |
10.07% |
$501 - $1,000
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21 |
14.09% |
$1,001 - $2,000
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32 |
21.48% |
$2,001 - $4,000
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33 |
22.15% |
$4,001 - $8,000
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8 |
5.37% |
$8,001 - $12,000
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5 |
3.36% |
$12,001 - $16,000
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8 |
5.37% |
$16,001 - $20,000
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2.68% |
More than $20,000
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6.04% |
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02-04-2007, 08:13 AM
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#21
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Lug Nut: what kind of sailboat? I've got a small fleet: 2 beat up catamarans, and a 26 ft weekend cruiser (a Hughes 26 - "the Hyundai of sailboats").
$4500 CDN for the Blackfly. (Remembering it only had 2,000 km on it when I got it).
Compared to $1900 CDN for Firefly#1, which had 14x,000 km on it when I got it.
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02-04-2007, 08:30 AM
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#22
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I need to change my vote, assuming the Beat will beat the Beater.
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02-05-2007, 06:51 AM
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#23
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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$1750 for 92 Civic VX with 153,000 miles.
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02-05-2007, 10:23 AM
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#24
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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My best purchase to date has been the 89 Honda Wagovan I am driving. I paid $500 for it. I had to put about $300 in repairs into it and it has been a very dependable car. It has about 215,000 on it, it doesn't use hardly any oil and runs great.
My next best purchase was a 1987 Civic DX, which I paid $1500 for. I had one daughter who used it for college and then moved on to a Camry. I have a second daughter who is driving it for college, now. I can get a little better mileage out of my wagon, than she gets out of the DX, which is a reflection of the difference between fuel injection and carburated, as well as some engine head design differences.
The way I look at it is that if we can drive something that is using substantially less fuel, then the total emissions which are emitted have to be substantially less than in some other type of vehicle. In terms of cost, I look at it as the total cost/reliability of ownership. With what I've paid for these cars and with the mileage they get, I feel they have been a very good value.
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02-05-2007, 02:58 PM
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#25
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 38
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The Metro was tick under $8000, bought new in '95. It's long since been paid off. The Ranger was a gift.
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02-05-2007, 08:27 PM
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#26
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$0 my dad bought it for me as my first car, though he did pay $3000 almost 11 years ago.
299,86x, so close to 300k.
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02-06-2007, 07:18 AM
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#27
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$172 for my old Saturn.
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2008 EPA adjusted:
Distance traveled by bicycle in 2007= 1,830ish miles
Average commute speed=25mph (yes, that's in a car)
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02-06-2007, 07:20 AM
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#28
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Oh wait - can I say $79 for the blue ForkenSwift?
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02-06-2007, 05:50 PM
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#29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lug_Nut
Which do I choose?
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For the sake of comparison I'll stick with the cars for which I have records.
96 VW Passat TDI sedan, purchased in 97: $20,000. 52.5 mpg (135,111.7 mi/2,573.76 gal). 68.6 mpg best tank. Total loss in 2000. Received $6,500 and kept the car. Sold the drive line for $900.
86 VW Golf diesel, purchased in 2000 as an interim: $700, 44.54 mpg (2058.2 mi/46.21 gal). 48.61 best tank. Sold for $500
96 VW Passat TDI sedan, purchased 2001: $6,500, 52.0 mpg (115,894 mi/2,228.7 gal) 82.3 mpg best (2003 Tour de Sol). Sold for $3,000.
96 VW Passat TDI wagon, purchased 2004: $4,500, 48.9 mpg (69,252 mi/1,417.57 gal). 77.5 mpg best (2005 Tour de Sol). Total loss in 2006. Received $5,000 and kept the car. Transferred the drive line into...
97 VW Passat GLX wagon, purchased 2006: $3,300 plus the drive line from above, 46+ mpg to date.
69 SAAB Sonett, purchased in 98: $5,500, consistently 450~480 miles per 12~14 gallon refill, so around 35 mpg to date.
My prior car's and bike's fuel records (and purchase costs) are non-existent or long forgotten. The CM450E was about 65 mpg, the 1500 Goldwing about 45, The Suburban was between 9 and 11. The Tempo was 40, but only once. The Volvo 760 was 20 average with a best of 27. The other dozen or so cars and bikes in the past 30 years are best forgotten.
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02-07-2007, 12:21 PM
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#30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lug_Nut
Which do I choose? The poll says "most FE vehicle", the thread says "most fuel efficient car". If 'vehicle': My sailboat uses less 'fuel' per unit of distance than my bicycle.
And are you considering fuel efficiency based on one best measurement of distance per unit of fuel, or on the lifetime (or duration of ownership) average of all distances divided over total fuel? I've had cars that could be wrung out to a better mpg than the best of my motorcycles, but the cars were seldom driven that way. Their average was lower than the motorcycle's.
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When I posted this thread, I had car/van/truck/wagon etc in mind (I guess any mass produced consumer-grade 4 wheeled contraption will work. Bikes and boats are in their own league considering weight, engine design, and purpose) I wanted it to be simple so "lifetime" FE will be the criteria, b/c anyone can throw a Ford Expedition SUV down a big hill w/ the engine off and claim "infinite mpg" based on a single run, despite a lifetime of 12.3 mpg (I use that specific figure b/c it's what my sister's Ford Ex displayed last time I talked to her...apparently fuel economy awareness does NOT run in my faimly)
PS - Mabe "V-Dub Nut" should have been a more suiting name Lug? I've always wanted a Baha Diesel Bug myself...
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