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Old 12-03-2008, 06:06 PM   #1
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Old 12-04-2008, 07:52 AM   #2
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I don't understand a couple of things on their website: (this was also e-mailed to them and I'll post the response)

How does coiling the wire make for enough EMI filtering to run these wires in an EFI vehicle?

What is the core of the wires made of that enables a magnetic field to travel down the wire? and how does that help the spark?

How does the wire create multiple sparks?

How does reducing the resistance of the wires help when still using resistor-type plugs? 60 ohms over even 6 feet is 360 ohms and your normal resistor spark plug is about 4.5k ohms for a combined 4,860 vs 4,500. Even as the plugs get hot and their resistor values drop it still isn't a big difference.
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Old 12-04-2008, 07:56 AM   #3
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FWIW, the last thread about these:
http://www.gassavers.org/showthread.php?t=8696
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Old 12-04-2008, 05:36 PM   #4
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Old 12-05-2008, 07:38 AM   #5
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Response to my email questions I posted above:

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Kyle, sounds like you are interested in making your own wires. I will give you some info, but suggest you buy from us.
Wires are real tubular metal. They do not interfer with electroncis. No RFI. No resistance. O to 1 ohms per wire. It is a different form of energy that what regular wires produce. There are many benefits to these wires. They enhance electrical system, including radio and brakes. We recommend copper core spark plugs, such as Autolite, NGK and champion. Energy runs through, in and outside our wires. Since you understand electronics and enginering I can give you a more technical explaination, if you wish. I know that you already know about Tessla and his findings about his coilings. We did not have prior knowledge of his work, but have since read a little about his work. Time is something I have very little of. We make these by hand and are custom made. we use the best materials we can find. I hope this info is helpful. Thank you, pat kiker
I'm not sure where to begin responding to that...
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Old 12-05-2008, 07:45 AM   #6
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Could start with the fact that wires don't produce energy. That "Tessla" is spelled "Tesla." That most of the energy your ignition coil puts out gets dissipated in the spark, and not the cable, so low resistance cables are moot in the first place. Plug wires wont make multiple sparks. Multiple spark ignition systems make multiple sparks.

The only truth I see in the entire thing is that properly coiling of a ground wire around the plug wires could reduce noise. That's about it, it's called RF shielding and it's nothing new.

The placebo effect is strong with this one.
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Old 12-05-2008, 07:55 AM   #7
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Thats not all the next leg of the trip was no ac. on 600kms, averages 4.8litres per 100kms or 59.2 mpg.
Hmmm...

I'm trying to figure out how a small amount of lost inefficiency in a gas combustion engine could be converted to close to doubling my mileage of a similar Focus. Is Reardon Metal used in the wires?
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Old 12-05-2008, 07:59 AM   #8
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Hmmm...

I'm trying to figure out how a small amount of lost inefficiency in a gas combustion engine could be converted to close to doubling my mileage of a similar Focus. Is Reardon Metal used in the wires?
No, they're half Unobtainium, half Impossibilium, and half element 115. From a UFO. Really.

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Actually, automotive ignition systems are pretty wasteful. Only around 0.2%(yes .2) of electrical energy used to fire the ignition system gets turned into actual spark. The rest is converted into heat.
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No, they're half Unobtainium, half Impossibilium, and half element 115. From a UFO. Really.
Oooo! I might have some of that. And I was looking for employment! I'm in!
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