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Old 02-03-2007, 09:52 PM   #11
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The story on hydrogen injection as I understand it is that it's not junk science, but that it isn't effective on our engines as they are built. Hydrogen in small quantities does modify the combustion event but the engine needs to be designed to take advantage of it. The main thing is that combustion is **much** more stable, even with a leaner mixture. That means a LAF and an ECU to match as a minimum. The good news is that it's OK from an emissions standpoint because NOX production is minimized by the presence of hydrogen.
Yes, everything you wrote is what I have gleaned as well. Similar products are being sold to Diesel Mac trucks as bolt-on equipment, either using distilled water or a little bit of the diesel fuel to generate the hydrogen. From what I gather, the higher-compression diesel is more hydrogen friendly becuase it is already a lean-burn engine. Also, the diesel runs cleaner.

I asked the inventor specifically about emissions because I want a system that works and is also California emissions compliant. In his emission results, when his system is running at a normal 14.7 Air/Fuel ratio, he gets higher NOx. However, when the A/F ratio is above 18 (another aspect of the system), the NOx goes to normal or below. His benchmark is the car's normal NOx output of 50-800 PPM. Also, above 14.7, the CO and HC emissions are great.

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The take home message is that I think you **might** be able to make this work, but it's going to be a long road to take it to completion. Incidentally, does this unit sequester the oxygen or does it just dump the oxygen in to the intake with the hydrogen? My gut feeling is that hydrogen alone would be better than a hydrogen/oxygen mix because it might use up enough atmospheric oxygen to trick the ECU into a minimal injection decrease as long as it is running closed-loop.
The unit does not sequester the oxygen. It's an electrolysis thingy with electrolyte + distilled water + electricity.

Again I agree that the magic word is **might**. The inventor is much more adventureous than I am. He knows what he is doing. All the information is there, so the road could be shorter if I had more time. But, I am super duper cautious and I don't want to install something until I understand how it works (I always have to do alot of homework after reading his explanations).

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