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Originally Posted by psyshack
As for Tranny failures with Hondas. The v6, 5 AT's have had issues. There have been some failures in the MT TL's and Civic Si's. One would have to wonder about some badly blown shifts in the TL's and Civic's.
The 5AT in our 05 Accord I4 seems to be doing well. but I also do a 3 qt. tranny fluid change on it every 3rd oil change and replace the inline filter on it.
The 5MT in my Civic feels clumbsy. I think its the cable style linkage used.
I think Hondas problems with there at's stem from folks wanting smooth shifting tranny's. This GM slush box approach induces slippage which inturns increase's heat. They have had issues with the fluid jets pluging up in the trannys. Cure has been to add another jet or mode the nozzles that are there.
Older Honda auto trannys use to shift harder. That resulted in less slip, heat and shed clutch matrial floating around in the fluid.
You can thank the American consumer for wanting a GM type slush box shift. Its the one and only thing I hate about our Accord. I drive it and catch my self thinking Im driving a Impala and then expect parts to fall off or out of it. Then i see the H on the steering wheel and relax.  |
Here's the sad part of this whole scenario. Your friend bought a used honda civic for $14k and the tranny blew at 100k. He also had to do the t-belt and water pump = more $$$.
On the flip side my wife bought a used 97 sunfire 6.5 years ago for $9,999 with 30k on it. 3 speed auto, it still managed 26mpg all city and 34mpg interstate @ 75mph. This car never broke down! Never! We drove it until last fall when it was T boned. It had a 180k on it. Ran great, burned 1 quart of oil every 1500 miles. Shifted great, still got 31 mpg highway.
All those years we drove that car I never changed anything but the following.
1 battery
1 radio( tape cassette died)
tires- lots
oil and dextron + filters, no flushes
air filter 3 times
1 upper o2 sensor ($19 at autozone)
1 upper motor mount ($50 at autozone)
1 a/c compressor ($205 junkyard part plus labor and refill)
4 dimmer switches (the last one even my wife knew how to install. 10 minute process)
Front brake pads every 30-40k
front Rotors 3 times ($16 each)
You'll notice the plugs and wires were the stockers
No timing chains, struts, egr valves, injectors, sensors, transmissions, nothing. It was a very cheap car to own. Who wants to drive an EXPENSIVE time bomb. GM may not make the most refined cars but then again your not paying the price for refinement are you. But you do get a good product for your money. You pay a honda price you should get honda reliability. For what honda's cost they should not have transmission failures. Especially at 100k. My family never drives a car less than 150k.
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